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<blockquote data-quote="Sepulchrave II" data-source="post: 3142816" data-attributes="member: 4303"><p>Yeah - I thought of this as I was walking out the door this morning. Enhance is odd - and now I've got a bee in my bonnet that it should originally have been a general feat. It kind of reminds me of Augment Summoning. Not that that helps us much.</p><p></p><p>The more I think about it, the more I realize that I've got the same problem with Enhance's redundancy with Empower that I had with the factor which increased the die size in the ELH epic spell system - it seems made to circumvent a more predictable progression by doing pretty much the same thing as another feat/factor.</p><p></p><p>Other Possibilities for Enhance Spell:</p><p></p><p>What if we just ditched it altogether? Is it really necessary, if we have Empower? A 50th-level metamagic caster who empowers <em>dbf</em> 10 times does 120d6 - which isn't too shabby. <em>Disintegrate</em> does 240d6.</p><p></p><p>What if we make it a non-stackable [general] feat. 50th-level metamagic man can dish out a 9 x empowered <em>dbf</em> in a 9th-level slot for 165d6 - this is bang on my "sweet spot." Yours is a little higher, maybe. His <em>disintegrate</em> (assuming that it benefits; I think it kind of has to, really) a tidy 330d6: if the single-seed specialist is dealing 50% more, we're comfortably in routine <em>VGG</em> territory. Much more than that, and it gets kind of crazy.</p><p></p><p>The simplicity of either of these is appealing. If our main objective is to moderate the power curve of the AMC/metamagic specialist, why not? At what point does +15d6 per 3 levels cease to be viable as damage output? </p><p></p><p>I'm still digesting your [blast] - I had a similar idea regarding a flexible area provision, but not including the discounted buyback. I was concerned that it might make combination w/ other seeds too complicated, which is why I shied away from it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sepulchrave II, post: 3142816, member: 4303"] Yeah - I thought of this as I was walking out the door this morning. Enhance is odd - and now I've got a bee in my bonnet that it should originally have been a general feat. It kind of reminds me of Augment Summoning. Not that that helps us much. The more I think about it, the more I realize that I've got the same problem with Enhance's redundancy with Empower that I had with the factor which increased the die size in the ELH epic spell system - it seems made to circumvent a more predictable progression by doing pretty much the same thing as another feat/factor. Other Possibilities for Enhance Spell: What if we just ditched it altogether? Is it really necessary, if we have Empower? A 50th-level metamagic caster who empowers [I]dbf[/I] 10 times does 120d6 - which isn't too shabby. [I]Disintegrate[/I] does 240d6. What if we make it a non-stackable [general] feat. 50th-level metamagic man can dish out a 9 x empowered [I]dbf[/I] in a 9th-level slot for 165d6 - this is bang on my "sweet spot." Yours is a little higher, maybe. His [I]disintegrate[/I] (assuming that it benefits; I think it kind of has to, really) a tidy 330d6: if the single-seed specialist is dealing 50% more, we're comfortably in routine [I]VGG[/I] territory. Much more than that, and it gets kind of crazy. The simplicity of either of these is appealing. If our main objective is to moderate the power curve of the AMC/metamagic specialist, why not? At what point does +15d6 per 3 levels cease to be viable as damage output? I'm still digesting your [blast] - I had a similar idea regarding a flexible area provision, but not including the discounted buyback. I was concerned that it might make combination w/ other seeds too complicated, which is why I shied away from it. [/QUOTE]
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