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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sepulchrave II" data-source="post: 3143501" data-attributes="member: 4303">Maybe; this would make low epic spells marginally subpar compared to AMC-heightened nonepic spells: consider the jacobean using the [slay] seed (DC 27) against the conventional caster (1 x AMC at 21st; Int 30) who prepares finger of death as a 9th-level spell (heightened to 10th), Save DC 30 - both would benefit from the relevant focus feats. Given that [slay] probably has some internal mitigation which can be freed up, I think this works rather well.By 50th level, the jacobean would prompt a save of DC 56; metamagic specialist can heighten his finger of death to 27th-level - if he can scrounge up an Int of 48 (and he should), he can match this.I think if we go this route we should be wary of the factor which allows the DC to be increased; it might beho(o)ve us to make it more expensive. If that requires departing from the normal metamagic pattern, then that's just too bad. I'm guessing +1DC per +4SP might be closer to the mark. Assuming that goalpoast is hypothetical at the moment (Hypothetical Universal Mitigating Factor - Humf is kind of appropriate), we should take care with feats that might push DCs over the top.Without delving too deeply into the ugly question of character wealth again, it's not quite so incumbent for the pure jacobean to get his greedy mits on the headband +12 - although his nonepic spells still benefit. The caster who splits his resources between metamagic and jacobean casting is still going to want one as soon as poss.Edit: actually, I'm concerned that this might stiff the metamagic specialist. All of those factors can be used by the jacobean to empower/widen whatever his [blast], and he still gains the benefit of a high save. The metamagic specialist has to pump all of his AMCs into Heighten, just to get a competive DC on his dbf.</blockquote>

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