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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 3145870" data-attributes="member: 141">We've more or less came to the conclusion that 1 epic feat equals 2 normal ones.  Not entirely independently of UK (we've both read his stuff), but not just because he said so either.  We haven't talked about divine abilities yet. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Here's a messload of monsters with CRs and, in many cases, hp, HD, saves and SR.  I concentrated on the higher CR monsters to see what their saves and such would be.This is CR = ECL.  If a 13th level party encounters a CR 13 monster, they'll use about 20% of their resources.  If it were WotC CR, a CR 13 monster would use about 50% of their resources.  The CR that UK uses in the bestiary is 1.5 x CR = ECL.  I converted it back for this file.If we end up discarding this idea, it's easy enough to get excel to change the numbers back.[edit] Oops.  The small earth elemental somehow got the stats for an elder earth elemental.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek!    :o"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" /> Using the handy little chart function (XY scatter) it looks like HP/CR = 12 hp, and Fort = Will = 0.5 * CR.  Ref = 0.4 * CR With a lot of exceptions, that is.  But those look like decent estimates for these statistics.  And SR seems to stop being a factor at higher levels.  Its basically looks like 20 + 0.4*CR.So if an Nth level caster can manage save DCs of 10 + N/2, then equal CR opponents will save about half the time.  Both of which are quite reasonable expectations, I think.</blockquote>

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