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<blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 3149158" data-attributes="member: 141"><p>It's probably a cure worse than the disease to extend the remit of Empower. And whatever remedy is proposed shouldn't involve a feat; with a feat Matt could just get Epic Spellcasting and research <em>superb dispelling</em>. </p><p></p><p>Actually, Epic Spell Insight would be perfect for a wizard who wants to dip into epic spellcasting; too bad it's restricted to spontaneous casters. There should be an option for arcane casters who only want to get access to one school. They could get a free <s>feat</s> <u>spell</u> and be able to upgrade it for free when they go up a level (have a certain number of free factors they could change).</p><p></p><p>It's funny how <em>MD</em> breaks the <em>dispel magic</em> paradigm so thoroughly. Effectively infinite caster level, since spells are dispelled without a caster level check. You can demagic magic items and have a decent chance to destroy anti-magic fields and even artifacts. No somatic component, and it's widened to boot. It's crazy to think that even if you could indefinitely Empower <em>dispel magic</em> you'd never be able to match this spell. I wonder if it could be an esoteric seed?</p><p></p><p>Maybe we should change the effect of <em>mage's disjunction</em> to have it be like <em>dispel magic</em>, but without a cap. The chance to destroy anti-magic field could be retained, I suppose. No destroying of magic items or artifacts, though. Rewriting it is a good alternative to just banning the spell, though I don't really like the idea of using up a 9th level spell-slot in this way.</p><p></p><p>As long as we are rewriting spells, maybe we could add a codicil to <em>greater dispel magic</em> that says that the spell can be Empowered, but the effect is to raise the cap by +10? We don't open a can of worms that way, but we enable Matt to dispel stuff.</p><p></p><p>Too bad scarabs and amulets take up the same slot. Matt should really have something to protect him from death magic and negative energy attacks. A greatly extended <em>foresight</em> with the provision of casting an appropriately quickened spell is probably his best protection against unexpected casts. I suspect <em>limited wish</em> could get a lot of use.</p><p></p><p>BTW, a house rule I've seen is that if you want to emulate a metamagicked spell via a <em>limited wish</em> or <em>wish</em>, you have to apply the metamagic to the spell doing the emulation. So if you want an extended <em>death ward</em> you have to cast an extended <em>limited wish</em>. I think it's an elegant rule, and I would support its adoption.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cheiromancer, post: 3149158, member: 141"] It's probably a cure worse than the disease to extend the remit of Empower. And whatever remedy is proposed shouldn't involve a feat; with a feat Matt could just get Epic Spellcasting and research [i]superb dispelling[/i]. Actually, Epic Spell Insight would be perfect for a wizard who wants to dip into epic spellcasting; too bad it's restricted to spontaneous casters. There should be an option for arcane casters who only want to get access to one school. They could get a free [s]feat[/s] [u]spell[/u] and be able to upgrade it for free when they go up a level (have a certain number of free factors they could change). It's funny how [i]MD[/i] breaks the [i]dispel magic[/i] paradigm so thoroughly. Effectively infinite caster level, since spells are dispelled without a caster level check. You can demagic magic items and have a decent chance to destroy anti-magic fields and even artifacts. No somatic component, and it's widened to boot. It's crazy to think that even if you could indefinitely Empower [i]dispel magic[/i] you'd never be able to match this spell. I wonder if it could be an esoteric seed? Maybe we should change the effect of [i]mage's disjunction[/i] to have it be like [i]dispel magic[/i], but without a cap. The chance to destroy anti-magic field could be retained, I suppose. No destroying of magic items or artifacts, though. Rewriting it is a good alternative to just banning the spell, though I don't really like the idea of using up a 9th level spell-slot in this way. As long as we are rewriting spells, maybe we could add a codicil to [i]greater dispel magic[/i] that says that the spell can be Empowered, but the effect is to raise the cap by +10? We don't open a can of worms that way, but we enable Matt to dispel stuff. Too bad scarabs and amulets take up the same slot. Matt should really have something to protect him from death magic and negative energy attacks. A greatly extended [i]foresight[/i] with the provision of casting an appropriately quickened spell is probably his best protection against unexpected casts. I suspect [i]limited wish[/i] could get a lot of use. BTW, a house rule I've seen is that if you want to emulate a metamagicked spell via a [i]limited wish[/i] or [i]wish[/i], you have to apply the metamagic to the spell doing the emulation. So if you want an extended [i]death ward[/i] you have to cast an extended [i]limited wish[/i]. I think it's an elegant rule, and I would support its adoption. [/QUOTE]
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