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<blockquote data-quote="Sepulchrave II" data-source="post: 3153494" data-attributes="member: 4303"><p>I am happy to accept this rule as authoritative. The question now becomes 'do we need to house-rule the effect of disintegrate?'</p><p></p><p>i.e. </p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">If it is effective against normal items, does <em>disintegrate</em> work on magic items?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Does it work on epic magic items?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Does it work on minor artifacts?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I'm assuming we can agree it doesn't work on major artifacts (?)</li> </ul><p></p><p>AFAICT, only major artifacts possess any special immunity to normal means of destruction. It's reasonable to assume they transcend normal magic. Could one smash the One Ring with a hammer, whilst standing in an <em>antimagic field?</em></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sounds good. I'll leave SF and GSF in for now - Matt's got every core pre-epic metamagic feat anyway. We might have some purchasing disagreements - let me know if anything strikes you as incongruous. I'm also assuming Matt will be getting a 100% return on old items he trades in - I kind of have to, really. I'd planned on leaving his spell choices blank, although I should probably include a #per day line!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nice. Or a spell which demands a <em>power word</em>, or a <em>holy word</em>. Which reminds me</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>For a high-level cleric (or half-celestial paladin) who has only prepared one <em>holy word</em>, the timing of its use is vital - to kill/paralyze/banish as many opponents as possible. </p><p></p><p>Only the balor gets <em>blasphemy</em> as an at-will SLA in the core rules; death slaad gets <em>word of chaos</em> 3/day - in fact (I may be wrong, I haven't checked), I think no other creature has <em>blasphemy, dictum, holy word </em> or <em>word of chaos</em> anywhere in its armamentarium. Epic monsters are a different kettle of fish, of course, which is why the -10 CL effect has to be dropped - especially given the range of opponents' HD.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sepulchrave II, post: 3153494, member: 4303"] I am happy to accept this rule as authoritative. The question now becomes 'do we need to house-rule the effect of disintegrate?' i.e. [list][*]If it is effective against normal items, does [I]disintegrate[/I] work on magic items? [*]Does it work on epic magic items? [*]Does it work on minor artifacts? [*]I'm assuming we can agree it doesn't work on major artifacts (?)[/list] AFAICT, only major artifacts possess any special immunity to normal means of destruction. It's reasonable to assume they transcend normal magic. Could one smash the One Ring with a hammer, whilst standing in an [I]antimagic field?[/I] Sounds good. I'll leave SF and GSF in for now - Matt's got every core pre-epic metamagic feat anyway. We might have some purchasing disagreements - let me know if anything strikes you as incongruous. I'm also assuming Matt will be getting a 100% return on old items he trades in - I kind of have to, really. I'd planned on leaving his spell choices blank, although I should probably include a #per day line! Nice. Or a spell which demands a [I]power word[/I], or a [I]holy word[/I]. Which reminds me For a high-level cleric (or half-celestial paladin) who has only prepared one [I]holy word[/I], the timing of its use is vital - to kill/paralyze/banish as many opponents as possible. Only the balor gets [I]blasphemy[/I] as an at-will SLA in the core rules; death slaad gets [I]word of chaos[/I] 3/day - in fact (I may be wrong, I haven't checked), I think no other creature has [I]blasphemy, dictum, holy word [/I] or [I]word of chaos[/I] anywhere in its armamentarium. Epic monsters are a different kettle of fish, of course, which is why the -10 CL effect has to be dropped - especially given the range of opponents' HD. [/QUOTE]
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