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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 3155913" data-attributes="member: 141">Pricing a +4 armor ability at 25,000 gp presumes that the armor is about +1.  I don't think that is a reasonable assumption at epic levels.  And if it is indeed "hideously undervalued" at +4, well, that is even more reason to doubt the analysis. I don't trust the rules in the DMG for pricing epic items; SR, for instance, is way too cheap.  So I reject your first principle.  The second principle I agree with- but I'm not inclined to follow anything too slavishly.  I even differ with UK on some things in the Immortal's Handbook!B and C are aesthetically unappealing.  Especially B.  What's next- goggles of titan strength? boots of sense motive? As for C, well, including overpriced and inappropriate abilities is just bad design, as far as I can tell.  And I'd rather avoid A; I'd want there to be tough choices in deciding what equipment to take; I don't even know if there should be an option to make the periapt slotless.Anyway, at 10% the periapt would be a secondary item at level 33.  Is that too late?  As a primary item it could be available at level 24.  Which isn't too bad; they can't afford a +8 stat buff item as a primary item until level 30 anyway.  It would allow undead and thorciasids to be scarey for a while, and makes atropals a horrific threat for 20-something level characters.  When they get into the 30s the threat of thorciasids should be much diminished, and atropals should be tough but manageable.Actually... is ability damage/drain a negative energy effect?  I don't see any support for this in the rules, but I was presuming that it was.  Does soulfire armor protect against it?  I gave away my book of exalted deeds so I don't have access to the text.  [edit] It seems like it doesn't.  I was pricing the periapt as if it worked against ability damage/drain.  Should it?  The warding against disease and poison sounds like it is a fairly comprehensive protection, but might not work against curses (or other sources of penalties).  Unless, perhaps, if they were necromantic in origin (i.e. a necromancy spell or undead special attack).A more comprehensive protection would make a value of three or four hundred thousand gp or so feel a lot more appropriate.  Is this the target price?  A cheaper item with holes in its protection would also be OK.  I'm unsure.</blockquote>

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