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<blockquote data-quote="Xaven" data-source="post: 349915" data-attributes="member: 2988"><p>Ok, I have a question for you all here. I have not had much experience with the Epic Level Handbook (ok, none, other than reading through it once), but my friend brought to my attention that it is possible to cast a fireball spell for 1920 damage. I know there are probably stronger combinations, but this is a core question: what metagic feats stack?</p><p></p><p>I will go through his math with you, and point out where I am wondering if he has it wrong. The character is at 40th level.</p><p></p><p>First off, you take your fireball spell, level 3. Then, enhance it three times, so that adds 12 levels to the spell, and makes it do 40d6. Then, you energy admixture it, adding 4 levels, and making it do 80d6 damage. The spell is now level 19.</p><p></p><p>Next, you intensify the spell, which maximizes the effects, then double them. This adds 7 levels and makes this spell level 26.</p><p></p><p>Now, in the description for intensify spell, it says that you can't combine this feat with any other feat that affects the variable, numeric effects of a spell. Does that mean that it wouldn't stack with Enhanced Spell, which adds 10 dice every time you use the feat?</p><p></p><p>Assuming it doesn't, let't continue. You then twin this behemoth spell, adding 4 more levels, making it level 30, and making it so the spell does 1920 damage.</p><p></p><p>Knowing that it is practically impossible to cast a level 30 spell, you then take Improved Metamagic 3 times, which lowers every metamagic feat by 1 level. This is another question I have. Does that mean every metamagic feat you use is lowered 1 level, so if you used the same feat three times, it subtracts 3 levels, or does it mean it subtracts 1 level for every different metamagic feat? </p><p></p><p>If it means every feat you use, then, seeing as this spell has 6 feats on it, and you took improved metamagic 3 times, it would lower this spell to a level 12 spell. In order to get level 12 spells, you take Improved Spell Capacity 3 times.</p><p></p><p>I need the answers to these questions, the one about Intensify spell and how it relates to Enhanced Spell, and a clarification on the Improved Metamagic Feat. Thanks a lot.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Xaven, post: 349915, member: 2988"] Ok, I have a question for you all here. I have not had much experience with the Epic Level Handbook (ok, none, other than reading through it once), but my friend brought to my attention that it is possible to cast a fireball spell for 1920 damage. I know there are probably stronger combinations, but this is a core question: what metagic feats stack? I will go through his math with you, and point out where I am wondering if he has it wrong. The character is at 40th level. First off, you take your fireball spell, level 3. Then, enhance it three times, so that adds 12 levels to the spell, and makes it do 40d6. Then, you energy admixture it, adding 4 levels, and making it do 80d6 damage. The spell is now level 19. Next, you intensify the spell, which maximizes the effects, then double them. This adds 7 levels and makes this spell level 26. Now, in the description for intensify spell, it says that you can't combine this feat with any other feat that affects the variable, numeric effects of a spell. Does that mean that it wouldn't stack with Enhanced Spell, which adds 10 dice every time you use the feat? Assuming it doesn't, let't continue. You then twin this behemoth spell, adding 4 more levels, making it level 30, and making it so the spell does 1920 damage. Knowing that it is practically impossible to cast a level 30 spell, you then take Improved Metamagic 3 times, which lowers every metamagic feat by 1 level. This is another question I have. Does that mean every metamagic feat you use is lowered 1 level, so if you used the same feat three times, it subtracts 3 levels, or does it mean it subtracts 1 level for every different metamagic feat? If it means every feat you use, then, seeing as this spell has 6 feats on it, and you took improved metamagic 3 times, it would lower this spell to a level 12 spell. In order to get level 12 spells, you take Improved Spell Capacity 3 times. I need the answers to these questions, the one about Intensify spell and how it relates to Enhanced Spell, and a clarification on the Improved Metamagic Feat. Thanks a lot. [/QUOTE]
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