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<blockquote data-quote="Cloudgatherer" data-source="post: 351995" data-attributes="member: 66">There are at least a couple things not spelled out explicitly in the rules we end up having to figure out for ourselves.&nbsp; Or we can ask the game designers and see what they think.For instance, there isn't *specific* text allowing one to stack the same metamagic feat multiple times (empowered empowered fireball, for instance).It's a fairly common practice for a metamagic feat to only modify the base spell.&nbsp; It just makes sense, is consistent, and eliminates a lot of problems.If you are contending that this rule is not the case, then all I want for Christmas is Empower Spell.Empowered Fireball:&nbsp; 10d6 + 5d6Empowered x2 Fireball:&nbsp; 15d6 + 7d6Empowered x3 Fireball:&nbsp; 22d6 + 11d6So the above is why we only base it on the base spell.&nbsp; Enhance is the exception, which is why it says it modifies the &quot;base&quot; spell and why there is the special restriction of only being able to apply it as many times as the feat has been taken.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cloudgatherer, post: 351995, member: 66"] There are at least a couple things not spelled out explicitly in the rules we end up having to figure out for ourselves. Or we can ask the game designers and see what they think. For instance, there isn't *specific* text allowing one to stack the same metamagic feat multiple times (empowered empowered fireball, for instance). It's a fairly common practice for a metamagic feat to only modify the base spell. It just makes sense, is consistent, and eliminates a lot of problems. [b]If[/b] you are contending that this rule is not the case, then all I want for Christmas is Empower Spell. Empowered Fireball: 10d6 + 5d6 Empowered x2 Fireball: 15d6 + 7d6 Empowered x3 Fireball: 22d6 + 11d6 So the above is why we only base it on the base spell. Enhance is the exception, which is why it says it modifies the "base" spell and why there is the special restriction of only being able to apply it as many times as the feat has been taken. [/QUOTE]

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