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<blockquote data-quote="Pax" data-source="post: 1409845" data-attributes="member: 6875">No, Kensai and the Vow of Poverty don't overlap much at all - certainly not enough to speak against the concept.&nbsp; Granted, the VoP gives you an enhancement bonus of up to +5 - and, granted, for the Kensai, you enchant it &quot;as a weapon&quot;, so you'll waste one &quot;+&quot; of your Kensai ability.&nbsp; But +1 enhancement and +9 worth of special abilities, added to the +5 enhancement of the Vow of Poverty, means that - at 20th level = you're essentially wielding a +14 weapon!&nbsp; ^_^&nbsp; Justiciar - basically &quot;supercop&quot;.&nbsp; Decent at grappling, his real trick is to grapple, and use some rope or a pair of manacles to literally &quot;hog-tie&quot; the opponent.&nbsp; Witht eh Vow of Poverty, though ... you won't HAVE said rope or manacles, so I'd give this one a pass.&nbsp; Reaping Mauler ... is basically &quot;das uber grappler&quot;.&nbsp; It's all of five levels, eventually gives a +2 competence bonus to grapple checks, the Improved gRapple feat for free when in light or no armor, when using grapple or escape artist to escape a grapple or pin he can immediately re-roll a failed check, and - the prime endpoint of his abilities - Devastating Grapple.&nbsp; Like the OA feat &quot;choke hold&quot;, but it's a save-or-DIE effect, DC 10 + Reaping Mauler class level + Wisdom Modifier.&nbsp; It's on pages 75-77 of CW.&nbsp; A friend capable of casting fly would work ...&nbsp; Failing that ... explore the concepts presented by Savage Progressions on the WOTC official website.&nbsp; ^_^&nbsp; Sword of Righteousness, BoED.&nbsp; Three levels, three bonus [Exalted] feats. ^_^</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pax, post: 1409845, member: 6875"] No, Kensai and the Vow of Poverty don't overlap much at all - certainly not enough to speak against the concept. Granted, the VoP gives you an enhancement bonus of up to +5 - and, granted, for the Kensai, you enchant it "as a weapon", so you'll waste one "+" of your Kensai ability. But +1 enhancement and +9 worth of special abilities, added to the +5 enhancement of the Vow of Poverty, means that - at 20th level = you're essentially wielding a [b]+14[/b] weapon! ^_^ Justiciar - basically "supercop". Decent at grappling, his real trick is to grapple, and use some rope or a pair of manacles to literally "hog-tie" the opponent. Witht eh Vow of Poverty, though ... you won't HAVE said rope or manacles, so I'd give this one a pass. Reaping Mauler ... is basically "das uber grappler". It's all of five levels, eventually gives a +2 competence bonus to grapple checks, the Improved gRapple feat for free when in light or no armor, when using grapple or escape artist to [b]escape[/b] a grapple or pin he can immediately re-roll a failed check, and - the prime endpoint of his abilities - Devastating Grapple. Like the OA feat "choke hold", but it's a save-or-[color=red][b]DIE[/b][/color] effect, DC 10 + Reaping Mauler class level + Wisdom Modifier. It's on pages 75-77 of CW. A friend capable of casting [i]fly[/i] would work ... Failing that ... explore the concepts presented by [i]Savage Progressions[/i] on the WOTC official website. ^_^ Sword of Righteousness, BoED. Three levels, three bonus [Exalted] feats. ^_^ [/QUOTE]

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