Epic Monster Help

[RisnDevil]

I am looking at creating an Epic Level Monster, and have some questions about numbers.

When creating MONSTERS above 20hd, you continue to add BAB, right? So a 32hd Outsider would have +32 BAB, right? Does he continue to get iterative attacks every five point?

Now lets give him ten levels of fighter. Is his BAB +32 with a +10 Epic Attack Bonus, or is it just +42?

I know you DO NOT continue to add BAB for class levels after 20th level (hd), but what is to say that this outsider did not take ten levels of fighter BEFORE Epic levels, so as to gain the benefit of the BAB? If that IS the case, then wouldn't his BAB be +42, therefore reverting back to my last question?

Sorry if this is confusing (it is to me too) and thanks in advance.

 

[glass]

I am looking at creating an Epic Level Monster, and have some questions about numbers. When creating MONSTERS above 20hd, you continue to add BAB, right?

Yes.

So a 32hd Outsider would have +32 BAB, right? Does he continue to get iterative attacks every five point?

Yes.

Now lets give him ten levels of fighter. Is his BAB +32 with a +10 Epic Attack Bonus, or is it just +42?

It's +32 with a +5 epic attack bonus.

I know you DO NOT continue to add BAB for class levels after 20th level (hd), but what is to say that this outsider did not take ten levels of fighter BEFORE Epic levels, so as to gain the benefit of the BAB? If that IS the case, then wouldn't his BAB be +42, therefore reverting back to my last question?

This is not exactly clear in the RAW, but my advice would be as he gains HD, the fighter levels are 'pushed up' switching over to EAB as they pass into epic level.


glass.

 

[SidusLupus]

Wait, you're capped at 4 primary attacks from BAB as per the Epic rules as a player.

Why should a monster violate that rule and get more? If it gets more from ways like extra limbs that's fine.

Flipping through the Epic Book, monsters who have BAB based attacks, only ever have a max of 4. Feats and extra limbs modify this.

 

[RisnDevil]

Sorry about the mistake on the EAB, Glass....oops.

SidusLupus - You are capped at four primary attacks as a player because your BAB does not EVER exceed 20, with monsters, it does.

I think I will go with the ruling that the fighter levels are "pushed up" for sake of simplicity. Thanks for the help.

 

[FEADIN]

I think that's the ECL which help to rule on the BAB progression for monsters with classes, as soon as your ECL is 21 you take on the Epic progression for the class.
There is a boxed text near the beginning of the ELH.