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<blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 7755963" data-attributes="member: 83242"><p>To be clear there is a D&D version of Dagon (which Paizo is referencing) and a HPL version, which they are not. I don't remember off the top of my head the differences between the 3e, PF 1e, and 4e version of Dagon. The Dagon of D&D is not the creature from HPL (which was provided in the original 1e version of Deities & Demigods, later removed for copyright reasons), but really its own thing. They share a name and a relationship to the sea, but that is about it. Of course there is very little real info on Dagon from HPL.</p><p></p><p>When I get some time later tonight I will give you my thoughts on your version of Dagon.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I believe he is talking about CR, not strength score. In D&D Demogorgon has always traditionally been a higher CR/level than Dagon (at least 3e and 4e). Demogorgon's CR is 26 in 5e I believe. However, I think the problem is with Demogorgon, not Dagon. Demogorgon should be a much higher CR than Zariel (and higher the Asmodeus IMO) and she is also a 26.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dave2008, post: 7755963, member: 83242"] To be clear there is a D&D version of Dagon (which Paizo is referencing) and a HPL version, which they are not. I don't remember off the top of my head the differences between the 3e, PF 1e, and 4e version of Dagon. The Dagon of D&D is not the creature from HPL (which was provided in the original 1e version of Deities & Demigods, later removed for copyright reasons), but really its own thing. They share a name and a relationship to the sea, but that is about it. Of course there is very little real info on Dagon from HPL. When I get some time later tonight I will give you my thoughts on your version of Dagon. I believe he is talking about CR, not strength score. In D&D Demogorgon has always traditionally been a higher CR/level than Dagon (at least 3e and 4e). Demogorgon's CR is 26 in 5e I believe. However, I think the problem is with Demogorgon, not Dagon. Demogorgon should be a much higher CR than Zariel (and higher the Asmodeus IMO) and she is also a 26. [/QUOTE]
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