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<blockquote data-quote="tglassy" data-source="post: 7952963" data-attributes="member: 6855204"><p>As someone who's done some research, just for kicks:</p><p></p><p>In actuality, the thought that Lucifer was only second to God is not necessarily a biblical one. Mainly because Michael beat him. Catholicism shows up to five or so Archangels, with Lucifer being one of them, but the Bible only ever refers to him as a Cherubim (which were warriors, not babies). Michael is the only Archangel mentioned, and often the Bible refers to "The Archangel", suggesting there is only one. Gabriel is the only other angel mentioned by name in the Bible, and it is generally accepted that he is an Archangel, but that's not necessarily the case. Now, there are other documents out there besides what the Protestants have settled on that might say other things. Catholicism has a ton, and Islam has some thoughts on it as well. I've done the research from the Catholic and Protestant side, not necessarily all the others.</p><p></p><p>Biblically, Satan did fall, due to pride, and he did take a third of the angels with him. As to the nature of what he was before he fell, that is up for some debate. We do know after he fell, he liked causing trouble on earth, and he enjoyed tempting men and women into sin. He was given great power, though it's possible he can do nothing directly against a human without permission. Hence the need to tempt them.</p><p></p><p>As for him being the King of Hell, that, I think, is the biggest misnomer. He was never the King of Hell. Hell was, in essence, created to be his prison. Him and his Angels. Humans aren't necessarily sent there as much as they chose to reject God and follow Lucifer down into the pit. That point is a big debate among those who believe in hell and those who don't, but that's always been my understanding of the topic.</p><p></p><p>Dante got some of it right in his versions of Hell, although all of the specifics were entirely his imagination. In Dente's Inferno, Lucifer is bound in the 9th circle of Hell, which is the lowest, and is is reserved for betrayers. He is a mindless monster who is forever trapped in torment for his actions, and has literally less than zero authority over anything. The only thing he can do is chomp down on Casius, Brutus and Judas, history's great betrayers.</p><p></p><p>Biblically, whether he is currently in hell or still roaming the world is up for debate. His tempting of Jesus Christ makes it seem as if he is still active, and the verses about him being cast into the Lake of Fire could be prophecy that hasn't happened yet. Or he could be in hell, but have some power to influence things here. That's just not clear.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tglassy, post: 7952963, member: 6855204"] As someone who's done some research, just for kicks: In actuality, the thought that Lucifer was only second to God is not necessarily a biblical one. Mainly because Michael beat him. Catholicism shows up to five or so Archangels, with Lucifer being one of them, but the Bible only ever refers to him as a Cherubim (which were warriors, not babies). Michael is the only Archangel mentioned, and often the Bible refers to "The Archangel", suggesting there is only one. Gabriel is the only other angel mentioned by name in the Bible, and it is generally accepted that he is an Archangel, but that's not necessarily the case. Now, there are other documents out there besides what the Protestants have settled on that might say other things. Catholicism has a ton, and Islam has some thoughts on it as well. I've done the research from the Catholic and Protestant side, not necessarily all the others. Biblically, Satan did fall, due to pride, and he did take a third of the angels with him. As to the nature of what he was before he fell, that is up for some debate. We do know after he fell, he liked causing trouble on earth, and he enjoyed tempting men and women into sin. He was given great power, though it's possible he can do nothing directly against a human without permission. Hence the need to tempt them. As for him being the King of Hell, that, I think, is the biggest misnomer. He was never the King of Hell. Hell was, in essence, created to be his prison. Him and his Angels. Humans aren't necessarily sent there as much as they chose to reject God and follow Lucifer down into the pit. That point is a big debate among those who believe in hell and those who don't, but that's always been my understanding of the topic. Dante got some of it right in his versions of Hell, although all of the specifics were entirely his imagination. In Dente's Inferno, Lucifer is bound in the 9th circle of Hell, which is the lowest, and is is reserved for betrayers. He is a mindless monster who is forever trapped in torment for his actions, and has literally less than zero authority over anything. The only thing he can do is chomp down on Casius, Brutus and Judas, history's great betrayers. Biblically, whether he is currently in hell or still roaming the world is up for debate. His tempting of Jesus Christ makes it seem as if he is still active, and the verses about him being cast into the Lake of Fire could be prophecy that hasn't happened yet. Or he could be in hell, but have some power to influence things here. That's just not clear. [/QUOTE]
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