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Epic Monsters: Lucifer (1 of 3), Falling Angel
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<blockquote data-quote="Tonguez" data-source="post: 7952998" data-attributes="member: 1125"><p>Biblically the name Lucifer is not applied to the Devil, that was a result of later medieval interpretation of Luke 10:18 “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven”</p><p></p><p>The story of Lucifers fall is from Isaiah and is reference to a man (the King of Babylon) who had boasted that he would raise his throne above the stars of God and make himself “like the Most High” But was eventually “brought down to the realm of the dead, to the depths of the pit.”</p><p></p><p>Isaiah 14:17 is interesting as it refers to a man who had been a great warrior tyrant:</p><p><em>'Is this the man who shook the earth and made kingdoms tremble, the man who made the world a wilderness, who overthrew its cities and would not let his captives go home?'</em></p><p></p><p>SO really you could do Lucifer as a Human tyrant and still be Biblically accurate, and for game purposes that would be really interesting to me - an Epic level tyrant king who challenges the celestial host!!!</p><p></p><p>But the Deva works for your purposes too, though I’d probably have gone Solar and given him more of a Fighter aspect</p><p></p><p>Satan as the Fallen Angel is fine, Satan is the Adversary who opposes the Man (Adam, and the Son of Man too).</p><p></p><p>I wouldnt use Beelzebub for Lord of Hell, although Beelzebub is used in the Bible, it was mainly a disparaging reference to the Philistine god Baal Zebul of Ekron.</p><p>Even most historic demonologist make Beelzebub a lieutenant to the Devil</p><p>So personally for your write up I’d just use the ‘The Devil’ (and emphasise the capital T)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tonguez, post: 7952998, member: 1125"] Biblically the name Lucifer is not applied to the Devil, that was a result of later medieval interpretation of Luke 10:18 “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven” The story of Lucifers fall is from Isaiah and is reference to a man (the King of Babylon) who had boasted that he would raise his throne above the stars of God and make himself “like the Most High” But was eventually “brought down to the realm of the dead, to the depths of the pit.” Isaiah 14:17 is interesting as it refers to a man who had been a great warrior tyrant: [I]'Is this the man who shook the earth and made kingdoms tremble, the man who made the world a wilderness, who overthrew its cities and would not let his captives go home?'[/I] SO really you could do Lucifer as a Human tyrant and still be Biblically accurate, and for game purposes that would be really interesting to me - an Epic level tyrant king who challenges the celestial host!!! But the Deva works for your purposes too, though I’d probably have gone Solar and given him more of a Fighter aspect Satan as the Fallen Angel is fine, Satan is the Adversary who opposes the Man (Adam, and the Son of Man too). I wouldnt use Beelzebub for Lord of Hell, although Beelzebub is used in the Bible, it was mainly a disparaging reference to the Philistine god Baal Zebul of Ekron. Even most historic demonologist make Beelzebub a lieutenant to the Devil So personally for your write up I’d just use the ‘The Devil’ (and emphasise the capital T) [/QUOTE]
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