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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 7953005" data-attributes="member: 4348">If you are Catholic (I think both Orthodox and Roman) and English I believe you also have the book of Tobit (protestant religion differ and some refer to it as ecclesiastical and many do not consider Tobit having anything other than a myth).  In Tobit another angel is mentioned, that of Raphael.  Thus, more than just Michael and Gabriel are mentioned in the Bible.The Book of Tobit can also be where some consider the number of the archangels which is seven.  Raphael proclaims himself as an angel that stands in the presence of the Lord, one of seven.  Of course, in Jewish tradition 7 is also a symbolic number, normally representing perfection (where as 6 is considered false, a number close to perfection, but as it is only close and not true or real perfection it can be a deception, or deceiver, thus the number of the Beast which is 3 sixes in a row meaning even more falsity and lies...or 666).As far as the thread is concerned...I think the CR is far too low for the threat.  Considering that several of the false idols worshipped which were considered less powerful than what we have this thread about are rated as Demonlords  with rather high CR in 5e (who were WEAKER than the main topic of the thread)...it seems weird to have the one over all of them as weaker than the angel cast out who led them (or in some views, was behind their creation and worship even).</blockquote>

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