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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 8100400" data-attributes="member: 2209"><p>I assume the myths are stories written by different authors for multiple purposes and so you can easily get contradictions.</p><p></p><p>A lot like Bat Man having lots of stories by different authors across decades for comics, radio, live action TV, multiple animated versions, movies, RPG portrayals, etc.</p><p></p><p>Norse myths are from multiple sources recorded in writing centuries after an oral tradition. The Bolverker one has elements that are great for a long story on long winter nights ranging from black slaptick humor (using greed to get slaves to kill each other simultaneously) to multi step plot (Aesir-Norse War truce leading to Kvasir, to Kvasir's murder to Kvasir blood theft, to Odin stealing it), to soap opera seduction, to etymology (and that's how people got fantastic poetry) to clever plots and narrow escapes to crude fart jokes. It can be taken literally, it can be taken as a funny story, it can be mined for metaphor or allegory, etc. Stories with Odin as the protagonist are very different from stories of him as the Sky god patron of a mortal hero or driver of a plot involving others. He can be Loki's blood brother, or Loki's dad. Gaiman's Odin in Norse Myths is different from him in Gaiman's Odd and the Frost Giants is different from him in Gaiman's The Sandman. Similarly Odin in the Havamarl versus a saga or the prose edda or Marvel comic Odin versus Marvel Universe Odin versus Odin in Daulaire's mythology book for children.</p><p></p><p>Particularly in a D&D context none of these variations are necessarily needed or wrong, take what you like and run with it. Just taking select elements that exist Odin can be a bad guy or a good guy.</p><p></p><p>If you want Odin to actually be Talos the power hungry one eyed evil storm god head of a group of gods from Forgotten Realms or Gruumsh or Vecna or just use their stats and some of their existing story elements to portray Odin as evil, that works. Similarly if you want to flip it and do the same for Moradin the Lawful good world shaping Dwarven Allfather of a heavily war oriented pantheon to portray a good guy Odin that works really well too.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 8100400, member: 2209"] I assume the myths are stories written by different authors for multiple purposes and so you can easily get contradictions. A lot like Bat Man having lots of stories by different authors across decades for comics, radio, live action TV, multiple animated versions, movies, RPG portrayals, etc. Norse myths are from multiple sources recorded in writing centuries after an oral tradition. The Bolverker one has elements that are great for a long story on long winter nights ranging from black slaptick humor (using greed to get slaves to kill each other simultaneously) to multi step plot (Aesir-Norse War truce leading to Kvasir, to Kvasir's murder to Kvasir blood theft, to Odin stealing it), to soap opera seduction, to etymology (and that's how people got fantastic poetry) to clever plots and narrow escapes to crude fart jokes. It can be taken literally, it can be taken as a funny story, it can be mined for metaphor or allegory, etc. Stories with Odin as the protagonist are very different from stories of him as the Sky god patron of a mortal hero or driver of a plot involving others. He can be Loki's blood brother, or Loki's dad. Gaiman's Odin in Norse Myths is different from him in Gaiman's Odd and the Frost Giants is different from him in Gaiman's The Sandman. Similarly Odin in the Havamarl versus a saga or the prose edda or Marvel comic Odin versus Marvel Universe Odin versus Odin in Daulaire's mythology book for children. Particularly in a D&D context none of these variations are necessarily needed or wrong, take what you like and run with it. Just taking select elements that exist Odin can be a bad guy or a good guy. If you want Odin to actually be Talos the power hungry one eyed evil storm god head of a group of gods from Forgotten Realms or Gruumsh or Vecna or just use their stats and some of their existing story elements to portray Odin as evil, that works. Similarly if you want to flip it and do the same for Moradin the Lawful good world shaping Dwarven Allfather of a heavily war oriented pantheon to portray a good guy Odin that works really well too. [/QUOTE]
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