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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 7986544" data-attributes="member: 83242">Your links take me to nothing (I don't have a DmD Beyond account).  However, the closet I see is this (PHB pg 173):[ATTACH=full]121912[/ATTACH]Notice that it says adventures can go as high as 20 and monsters as high as 30.  However, note that this is clearly not a hard and fast rule as their are a number of things that can raise and adventurer's score above 20 (magic items, blessings, charms, boons, and class features).  I would take the same approach with monsters.  Generally, 30 is the max, but exceptions do exist.EDIT:  The DMG (pg 275) also clarifies:[ATTACH=full]121913[/ATTACH]So this also places a hard limit at 30, but for me I would still say the specific out weighs the general as Mike as done here. Also, it is possible for a monster or a PC to have a score lower than 1 (see intellect devourer)</blockquote>