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Message: <blockquote data-quote="lkj" data-source="post: 2863502" data-attributes="member: 18646">I've essentially found the same thing. Really powerful spell designs tend to have unattainable DC's. I realize there are probably ways around that problem, but it sure seems like they would involve some pretty creative contortions (that would be fairly obvious to spot). That said, I don't really want to argue that this system is the best, end all way to do epic spells. I like it, and, from my position, doesn't seem inherently abuse prone. Again, that doesn't mean I think it's not abuseable at all. I just don't think it's worth the effort to try to close every loophole. I agree with Psion here that any flavorful system that allows 'world changing epic magic' is likely to have dangerous loopholes. And I think the work of adding '100 limitations to stop abuse' isn't really worth the page space. But hey, to each his own. I'm not really familiar with the other options being thrown about, so, who knows, maybe there are lots of better ways to do it.AD</blockquote>