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Message: <blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 8701377" data-attributes="member: 6877472">I think Gary was the one who offered up planar adventures for high level play, but there are some very powerful entities that exist on the Prime Material as well.  Ancient dragons are historically very terrifying opponents, who can cause problems for players outside of combat.I'm of course talking about the old school spellcasting dragons who may have the ability to take on a humanoid form, who can advance to great status in mortal society, and thus have amazing resources and minions they can deploy, make political actions against the group, and of course, use their magic to consolidate their power base and harass the PC's over the course of a campaign, and only at the end reveal their true form!Even though this sort of thing predates it by decades, WoW players who know the story of Lady Katrana Prestor/Onyxia have this as a classic example.</blockquote>