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<blockquote data-quote="Levistus's_Leviathan" data-source="post: 8704806" data-attributes="member: 7023887"><p>It depends on the setting. What would be capable in Eberron for "epic plots" would be completely different from those in Spelljammer, or Dark Sun, or Ravenloft, or the Forgotten Realms. Especially since the "no going extraplanar" restriction leaves out Planescape (unless you keep it on Sigil). </p><p></p><p>The campaigns that I've done/am doing that go to "epic levels" and haven't gone extraplanar have had the following plots:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Dungeon of the Mad Mage:</strong> Killing Halaster Blackcloak, fighting the curse that afflicts those that journey into Undermountain, destroying the dungeon after it was animated and destroying Waterdeep</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Homebrew Eberron Campaign</strong>: Preventing Erandis Vol from restoring the Dragonmark of Death and achieving apotheosis, trying to retrieve Cyre from the Mists of Ravenloft, using a super powerful Eldritch Machine to reform Eberron's lost moon. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Homebrew Spelljammer Campaign</strong>: Using time travel to stop the illithid empire from returning and conquering all of the Multiverse. </li> </ul><p>In my experience, epic campaigns require you to increase the stakes significantly from earlier adventures. Going to the Outer Planes and killing gods/archfiends is an obvious leap, but there are other options, especially for certain different campaign settings. For Eberron, you can do something with any of the non-Khorvaire continents or the Mournland. For Dark Sun, you can try to wipe out the dragon-sorcerers and try to make the world a better place. For Ravenloft, you can try to <em>permanently </em>change the domains of dread for the better. For most settings, you can have the party try to take on a Lich/Demilich/Death Knight, a Greatwyrm Dragon, the Aspect/Avatar of a God, the Tarrasque, or something else of epic proportion. There's a lot of powerful monsters that you can grab and say "<em>that</em>, I want the campaign to focus around <em>that</em>".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Levistus's_Leviathan, post: 8704806, member: 7023887"] It depends on the setting. What would be capable in Eberron for "epic plots" would be completely different from those in Spelljammer, or Dark Sun, or Ravenloft, or the Forgotten Realms. Especially since the "no going extraplanar" restriction leaves out Planescape (unless you keep it on Sigil). The campaigns that I've done/am doing that go to "epic levels" and haven't gone extraplanar have had the following plots: [LIST] [*][B]Dungeon of the Mad Mage:[/B] Killing Halaster Blackcloak, fighting the curse that afflicts those that journey into Undermountain, destroying the dungeon after it was animated and destroying Waterdeep [*][B]Homebrew Eberron Campaign[/B]: Preventing Erandis Vol from restoring the Dragonmark of Death and achieving apotheosis, trying to retrieve Cyre from the Mists of Ravenloft, using a super powerful Eldritch Machine to reform Eberron's lost moon. [*][B]Homebrew Spelljammer Campaign[/B]: Using time travel to stop the illithid empire from returning and conquering all of the Multiverse. [/LIST] In my experience, epic campaigns require you to increase the stakes significantly from earlier adventures. Going to the Outer Planes and killing gods/archfiends is an obvious leap, but there are other options, especially for certain different campaign settings. For Eberron, you can do something with any of the non-Khorvaire continents or the Mournland. For Dark Sun, you can try to wipe out the dragon-sorcerers and try to make the world a better place. For Ravenloft, you can try to [I]permanently [/I]change the domains of dread for the better. For most settings, you can have the party try to take on a Lich/Demilich/Death Knight, a Greatwyrm Dragon, the Aspect/Avatar of a God, the Tarrasque, or something else of epic proportion. There's a lot of powerful monsters that you can grab and say "[I]that[/I], I want the campaign to focus around [I]that[/I]". [/QUOTE]
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