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<blockquote data-quote="Jemal" data-source="post: 3374972" data-attributes="member: 9026"><p>Nephtys - I'm not using the SRD for the same reason as PDF's, but if you type out the domain I'll tell you if it's acceptable.</p><p></p><p>Pallandrome - Looking good, I'm already seeing tension between the Paladin and the Blackguard <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> .. Also, you may want to reconsider the Staff of Planar Might on the grounds that none of its abilities will function on the Prime.. You can't summon outsiders b/c they've been banished, you can't gate anything in, and gating out will take you back to the Observatory.</p><p>Likewise, the Gatekey will function ON the Prime if you attune new keys to it, but not going from in to out or out to in.</p><p></p><p></p><p>BTW, The reason I'm ok with Dragons (PC's or mounts, etc) is b/c I'm basing this campaign off an old world I've Played in, and there were a lot of draconic interactions.. Dragon PCs, Dragon mounts, Dragon allies, Dragon badguys, etc, etc.. The campaign world involved a lot of dragons, and I'm comfortable with that.</p><p>As for a Draconic mount for a level 30 paladin.. I'ld prefer not to use the "Special Cohorts" thing from the ELH.. You'ld be getting the equivalent of an Ancient Green dragon(CR 21, 32 HD), which is better than a Dragon PC could play if we ignored LA completely!</p><p></p><p>SO.. here's how I'm going to do it. We'll go off Silver's, Red's, and Gold's for the sake of simplicity. </p><p>Silver Dragon: as PC - Mature Adult, 25HD, +5 LA. </p><p>As Cohort - Adult, 22 HD. (Requires Epic Leadership)</p><p>As Paladin Special Mount - Young Adult, 20HD. Requires 20,000GP donation to the dragon's hoard (But no extra feat required). Gains Paladin Special Mount abilities 10 levels slower(Requires 10 lvls in paladin).</p><p></p><p>Red Dragon: as PC - Adult, 24HD, +6 LA. </p><p>As Cohort - Adult, 22 HD. (Requires Epic Leadership).</p><p>As Fiendish Servant(Blackguard) - Young Adult, 20 HD. Requires 20,000 GP Donation to the dragon's haord (But no extra feat required). Gains Blackguard Fiendish Servant abilities 10 levels slower (Requires 10 levels in Blackguard).</p><p></p><p>Gold Dragon: As PC -Adult, 23HD, +7 LA. </p><p>As Cohort - Young Adult, 20HD. (Requires Epic Leadership)</p><p>As Paladin Special Mount - Young Adult, 18HD. Requires 20,000GP donation to the dragon's hoard (But no extra feat required). Gains Paladin Special Mount abilities 10 levels slower. (Requires 10 lvls in paladin).</p><p></p><p>Draconomicon Feat(slightly altered): <em>Dragon Cohort</em> - When you take a Draconic Cohort (Or Mount/Servant), It gains 2 HD.</p><p></p><p>If you take your Draconic Cohort AND Special mount as the same, they follow all the cohort rules, plus they gain your paladin(blackguard) special mount/servant abilities with no level penalty. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I will not be further penalizing dragons after the start based on 'size increases' or aging. Your LA reains static, and whenever you level up, you can choose to gain either a class level/prestige class level, or a Dragon Hit Die and all the associated benefits. If you reach enough HD to 'age up', then your dragon is reaching maturity faster than usual. Same goes for Cohorts, although Special Mounts/Fiendish Servants must take Dragon Hit Dice, not classes or prestige classes.</p><p></p><p>I like Dragons.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jemal, post: 3374972, member: 9026"] Nephtys - I'm not using the SRD for the same reason as PDF's, but if you type out the domain I'll tell you if it's acceptable. Pallandrome - Looking good, I'm already seeing tension between the Paladin and the Blackguard :) .. Also, you may want to reconsider the Staff of Planar Might on the grounds that none of its abilities will function on the Prime.. You can't summon outsiders b/c they've been banished, you can't gate anything in, and gating out will take you back to the Observatory. Likewise, the Gatekey will function ON the Prime if you attune new keys to it, but not going from in to out or out to in. BTW, The reason I'm ok with Dragons (PC's or mounts, etc) is b/c I'm basing this campaign off an old world I've Played in, and there were a lot of draconic interactions.. Dragon PCs, Dragon mounts, Dragon allies, Dragon badguys, etc, etc.. The campaign world involved a lot of dragons, and I'm comfortable with that. As for a Draconic mount for a level 30 paladin.. I'ld prefer not to use the "Special Cohorts" thing from the ELH.. You'ld be getting the equivalent of an Ancient Green dragon(CR 21, 32 HD), which is better than a Dragon PC could play if we ignored LA completely! SO.. here's how I'm going to do it. We'll go off Silver's, Red's, and Gold's for the sake of simplicity. Silver Dragon: as PC - Mature Adult, 25HD, +5 LA. As Cohort - Adult, 22 HD. (Requires Epic Leadership) As Paladin Special Mount - Young Adult, 20HD. Requires 20,000GP donation to the dragon's hoard (But no extra feat required). Gains Paladin Special Mount abilities 10 levels slower(Requires 10 lvls in paladin). Red Dragon: as PC - Adult, 24HD, +6 LA. As Cohort - Adult, 22 HD. (Requires Epic Leadership). As Fiendish Servant(Blackguard) - Young Adult, 20 HD. Requires 20,000 GP Donation to the dragon's haord (But no extra feat required). Gains Blackguard Fiendish Servant abilities 10 levels slower (Requires 10 levels in Blackguard). Gold Dragon: As PC -Adult, 23HD, +7 LA. As Cohort - Young Adult, 20HD. (Requires Epic Leadership) As Paladin Special Mount - Young Adult, 18HD. Requires 20,000GP donation to the dragon's hoard (But no extra feat required). Gains Paladin Special Mount abilities 10 levels slower. (Requires 10 lvls in paladin). Draconomicon Feat(slightly altered): [i]Dragon Cohort[/i] - When you take a Draconic Cohort (Or Mount/Servant), It gains 2 HD. If you take your Draconic Cohort AND Special mount as the same, they follow all the cohort rules, plus they gain your paladin(blackguard) special mount/servant abilities with no level penalty. I will not be further penalizing dragons after the start based on 'size increases' or aging. Your LA reains static, and whenever you level up, you can choose to gain either a class level/prestige class level, or a Dragon Hit Die and all the associated benefits. If you reach enough HD to 'age up', then your dragon is reaching maturity faster than usual. Same goes for Cohorts, although Special Mounts/Fiendish Servants must take Dragon Hit Dice, not classes or prestige classes. I like Dragons. [/QUOTE]
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