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<blockquote data-quote="pallandrome" data-source="post: 3378394" data-attributes="member: 46930"><p>A fair question!</p><p></p><p>18 points from the point buy.</p><p>5 points from level-ups.</p><p>12 points from Epic Cloak of Charisma.</p><p>5 points from Tome of Leadership and Influince.</p><p>5 points from five wishes, all cast in a row.</p><p>6 from being a Rakshasa</p><p>...</p><p>Hmm, yep something is off. First off, the Tome and the Wishes don't stack. I didn't realize that wishes gave inherint bonuses. I think I must have also counted the level 24 and the level 28 ability ups. So if we assume that I never cast those three wishes (or the two out of my dagger), then I should have 46 charisma. Just as a side note, I tend to do all my editing on the character after it is done, so please do not assume that I think my numbers are correct just yet <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> Still, 46 charisma aint bad at all.</p><p></p><p>And while it doesn't explicitly say that threats won't work, I think disallowing them is more appropriate. Thematically, it's supposed to be like a contract with the devil. Satan is never so vulgar as to <em>threaten</em> someone into giving him something. He either tricks it out of you, bargains for it, or beats you in a (somewhat) fair contest. And being far more lawful than I am evil, I'd be VERY against tricking someone into signing such a contract. That's the kind of thing that would lose me my Blackguard levels!</p><p></p><p>As for actually taking me in a fight, I'm not really THAT tough. I've got good saves, but neither mettle, nor evasion. I'll probably also have fewer HP than anyone else in this crew, considering that I'm a primary caster, and that I'm using a +7LA race. What I DO have is a whole lot of utility, and the ability to escape out of a lot of situations.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pallandrome, post: 3378394, member: 46930"] A fair question! 18 points from the point buy. 5 points from level-ups. 12 points from Epic Cloak of Charisma. 5 points from Tome of Leadership and Influince. 5 points from five wishes, all cast in a row. 6 from being a Rakshasa ... Hmm, yep something is off. First off, the Tome and the Wishes don't stack. I didn't realize that wishes gave inherint bonuses. I think I must have also counted the level 24 and the level 28 ability ups. So if we assume that I never cast those three wishes (or the two out of my dagger), then I should have 46 charisma. Just as a side note, I tend to do all my editing on the character after it is done, so please do not assume that I think my numbers are correct just yet :D Still, 46 charisma aint bad at all. And while it doesn't explicitly say that threats won't work, I think disallowing them is more appropriate. Thematically, it's supposed to be like a contract with the devil. Satan is never so vulgar as to [I]threaten[/I] someone into giving him something. He either tricks it out of you, bargains for it, or beats you in a (somewhat) fair contest. And being far more lawful than I am evil, I'd be VERY against tricking someone into signing such a contract. That's the kind of thing that would lose me my Blackguard levels! As for actually taking me in a fight, I'm not really THAT tough. I've got good saves, but neither mettle, nor evasion. I'll probably also have fewer HP than anyone else in this crew, considering that I'm a primary caster, and that I'm using a +7LA race. What I DO have is a whole lot of utility, and the ability to escape out of a lot of situations. [/QUOTE]
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