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<blockquote data-quote="evilbob" data-source="post: 3597932" data-attributes="member: 9789">The crafting rules would be extremely strange but probably not abusable in this system.&nbsp; For one, you can't craft an item with an enhancement bonus of greater than +2 in this world, since caster level = 3 x bonus is the formula.&nbsp; There are also very, very few special abilities that could be done (traits with a caster level of 6 or less), so you'd never see a +1 flaming longsword, either (caster level 8th).&nbsp; The vast majority of wonderous items are also out, due to the rule limits:&nbsp; you could never have a +2 ability item (no more Gloves of Dex +2) since they are caster level 8th, and you could never make any bracers of armor - even +1 requires caster level 7th.&nbsp; You could make an amulet of natural armor +1 (caster level 5th), but +2 and above is out.&nbsp; Potions would rule, though!In any case, having a maximum 4th level crafting cohort would mean that your crafting options are severly restricted.&nbsp; The point about wands is a good one, but again you're limited to 3rd level spells even if you're doing it yourself, so I don't think it'd get out of hand.&nbsp; The relative value of such an item would be much higher, however.That aside, this idea also intrigues me.&nbsp; I don't think raising the level cap would be a particularly good idea, because the &quot;7-10&quot; range is the one that is the most brutal for many classes (especially multiclass characters).&nbsp; I hate that range the most of all levels.&nbsp; And if you're going to go over 10, you might as well not limit folks.However, I would think giving access to some higher level abilities might be nice, even if it was through the &quot;feat&quot; mechanic.&nbsp; Then again, it's probably not fair to let a ranger somehow gain the ability to hide in plain sight if the wizard can't throw 4th level spells and the rogue never does more than +3d6 sneak attack, either.Are there any feats you use that would allow a caster access to a single (or more) higher level spell (but without the caster level)?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="evilbob, post: 3597932, member: 9789"] The crafting rules would be extremely strange but probably not abusable in this system. For one, you can't craft an item with an enhancement bonus of greater than +2 in this world, since caster level = 3 x bonus is the formula. There are also very, very few special abilities that could be done (traits with a caster level of 6 or less), so you'd never see a +1 flaming longsword, either (caster level 8th). The vast majority of wonderous items are also out, due to the rule limits: you could never have a +2 ability item (no more Gloves of Dex +2) since they are caster level 8th, and you could never make any bracers of armor - even +1 requires caster level 7th. You could make an amulet of natural armor +1 (caster level 5th), but +2 and above is out. Potions would [I]rule[/I], though! In any case, having a maximum 4th level crafting cohort would mean that your crafting options are severly restricted. The point about wands is a good one, but again you're limited to 3rd level spells even if you're doing it yourself, so I don't think it'd get out of hand. The relative value of such an item would be much higher, however. That aside, this idea also intrigues me. I don't think raising the level cap would be a particularly good idea, because the "7-10" range is the one that is the most brutal for many classes (especially multiclass characters). I hate that range the most of all levels. And if you're going to go over 10, you might as well not limit folks. However, I would think giving access to some higher level abilities might be nice, even if it was through the "feat" mechanic. Then again, it's probably not fair to let a ranger somehow gain the ability to hide in plain sight if the wizard can't throw 4th level spells and the rogue never does more than +3d6 sneak attack, either. Are there any feats you use that would allow a caster access to a single (or more) higher level spell (but without the caster level)? [/QUOTE]

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