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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nish" data-source="post: 374913" data-attributes="member: 145">I have that effect on people. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Sounds like an over-simplification to me. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> For the character which I'm more or less arguing on behalf of here, there's simply way too much about the Shadow Dancer that doesn't fit the character. In fact the only things I feel would work for the character that she doesn't already get from the Rogue class are Hide in Plain Sight and Darkvision. Why in the Nine Hells should I have to get combat reflexes and buy 5 ranks in perform (something that really doesn't fit the character), to get those couple of abilities, along with a bunch of other stuff I don't want, while at the same time missing out on Rogue stuff that I do want?How about if the PC hates undead? That would require some serious "aligning". Either that, or the DM house ruling the Summon Shadow ability out for you. There are countless ways that any given prestige class (or core class) can simply not fit a character, even if it has some nice abilities.Right, but there's alot you can't do with multiclassing either.I realize that the item creation rules are very flexible, but there's still something un-heroic and anti-climatic about relying too much on magic items. Especially when you're talking about the core function of a character. Besides, you can't always assume that you're going to be able to get every or even any magic items that you specifically want. No, but the theoretical possibility of being scried by just about any pissant, no matter how skilled one is at hiding, takes a little bit of the excitement out of playing an Epic rogue.No, but they are far more skilled than you at being facetious. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> Not acquiring a reputation or any living (or undead, or construct...) enemies that know who you are is far easier said than done. Especially when you're running around with a bunch of other screwballs that have no talent for subtlety. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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