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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 2645735" data-attributes="member: 14159">I'll agree with those here who say that it's not meant to be common, or even normally possible for these things to happen.Yes, Conan, or Aragorn, or Grey Mouser couldn't do these things.  They also aren't Level 30 or 40+.  The overwhelming majority of fantasy fiction characters would be well under 20th level, which is what D&D is normally meant for.  In 2nd Edition AD&D, mortal progression even stopped at 30th level, the 30+ range is really meant for those who blur the line beteween man and god, and beings of legend who are beyond any normal ken.What about legends of people so skilled they did impossible things?  Things like Paul Bunyan and Pecos Bill, or heroes of Wuxia and Anime, that is what those skill checks are meant to represent.  Warriors who could defeat entire armies singlehandedly silver-tongued devils who could talk entire nations out of their wealth, or sages so learned they know the entire contents of their whole libraries by heart.  Yes, you hear those stories and go "that's impossible", but Magic Missile is also impossible, it's both part of the fantasy.  Some people like having characters who become so skilled they can dance on a cloud or do the "Fonz" thing with a lock, and it's every bit as valid as somebody who wants to throw Meteor Swarms and True Resurrections around every day, they are both extraordinary characters of fantasy who go beyond not only realism, but most of fantasy.If you don't want people to climb on the ceiling with a DC 100 climb check, your game will probably never get to the point where a DC 100 anything check will ever come up.  In games where they show up, it's not too bad when you consider the sheer amount of magical might and resources available to characters of those levels.</blockquote>

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