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<blockquote data-quote="drnuncheon" data-source="post: 264509" data-attributes="member: 96">Well, of course you're foolish - you're buying just a spell seed, and one that's far below your ability.&nbsp; As a 21st level caster you've got K:A at 25, with probably a +10 from Int, items, and various feats. So looking at a spell with a DC of 45 (assuming you Take 10).&nbsp; So where to start?First off, lets make it equal Improved Invisibility - DC 21.&nbsp; Next, let's look at the Conceal seed again.&nbsp; Hey, you can use it to block Divination effects.&nbsp; So add Conceal a second time, with the +6, for a total of 44.&nbsp; Now your epic invisibility extends to divination spells.&nbsp; Like, oh, say, see invisible and true seeing.That's not bad. Not bad at all.&nbsp; A couple of levels down the road and you can increase the duration.&nbsp; You could bring it down to 1 action if you wanted it to hurt to cast.Epic spellcasting really comes into its own when you're a few levels past 21 though. As a caster, I'd probably wait to take the feat until I had 11th or 12th level slots.J</blockquote>

[QUOTE="drnuncheon, post: 264509, member: 96"] Well, of course you're foolish - you're buying just a spell seed, and one that's far below your ability. As a 21st level caster you've got K:A at 25, with probably a +10 from Int, items, and various feats. So looking at a spell with a DC of 45 (assuming you Take 10). So where to start? First off, lets make it equal Improved Invisibility - DC 21. Next, let's look at the Conceal seed again. Hey, you can use it to block Divination effects. So add Conceal a second time, with the +6, for a total of 44. Now your epic invisibility extends to divination spells. Like, oh, say, [i]see invisible[/i] and [i]true seeing[/i]. That's not bad. Not bad at all. A couple of levels down the road and you can increase the duration. You could bring it down to 1 action if you wanted it to hurt to cast. Epic spellcasting really comes into its own when you're a few levels past 21 though. As a caster, I'd probably wait to take the feat until I had 11th or 12th level slots. J [/QUOTE]

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