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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hashmalum" data-source="post: 836128" data-attributes="member: 9450">I don't see how I "dismissed" anything. I didn't say "people who are unhappy with +Spellcraft items are wussies, all real players have them so get used to it". I made a suggestion that I think is less trouble to implement than the caster level-based idea of the initial poster.The 3.5 revision team apparently disagrees. +Skill items are being downgraded in 3.5E.But spellcasters ARE magic-centered characters rather than skill-monkeys. They don't NEED items that boost their class skills to keep up. Since +Spellcraft items were never needed to begin with, and cause problems with the epic rules, what is wrong with simply banning them? Even as the rules stand at the moment, it is obvious that not all skill pluses are equally valuable--compare the ring of jumping to the stuff of elvenkind for an example.Furthermore, one of the problems with +skill items is that they allow any character who has one to effortlessly outshine the aforementioned skill-monkeys in their main area of competence. I recall reading (on the Kargatane board) about the complaints of a rogue who was totally outclassed in terms of Hide skill by the party ranger, who happened to find a ring of chameleon power--despite the fact that the ranger did not put a single skill point into Hide, he was far better at it than the rogue who had maxed out Hide since 1st level. I can certainly see why that bothered him.It must have been more than a month ago... My, how time flies. I can't find it either, but I distinctly recall reading it. Unless I am thinking of a different message board, but I read the ENWorld boards almost exclusively, so that's not likely.</blockquote>

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