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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kerrick" data-source="post: 849277" data-attributes="member: 4722">You're right - I did miss that point. I don't know the exact ruling on that - I'll have to talk to my DM and ask him.     Really, though, I don't see why they have to have more cleric or druids levels than their worshippers - they grant spells from their godly power,    Check out the sidebar on page 31 of D&DG - Behind the Curtain: Divine Abilities and Epic Feats. I think the reason they didn't include epic feats and such in D&DG was that the ELH came out two months AFTER D&DG. But, "While none of the deities in this book have class levels higher than 20th, there's no reason they couldn't, if you have access to the rules for advancing them... If your campaign reaches such epic heights, you might want to consider increasing the character levels of the deities to keep them ahead of the characters."   Course, I agree that giving the gods stats at all is a bad idea unless you plan on having the PCs take them on eventually, but granting them a few (dozen) more levels wouldn't be too hard... Rofl!! Just another example of Wizards' bad grasp of the rules and apparent laziness. I mean, come on - several of those spellcasters have Epic Spellcasting, so why don't they have the spells? (But wait! Eclavdra can cast crown of vermin with her amulet 1/day!) I guess they figured we can figure out how many and which spells they get for ourselves...    On the FR side, it said in the Mages' Spell Compendium (2E, under the description of mythals) that such magics were later taken away from mortals by the gods. So, I guess if you live in the Realms and you aren't a Chosen of Mystra, you're SOL. I guess we can blame this on the fact that the FRCS came out almost a full year before the ELH, which is why the treatment of epic level abilities was so sketchy. All I can say is, I hope to all the gods they do a better job with the revisions. We don't play in FR, so it doesn't really matter there, but I seriously hope they overhaul the epic magic system.</blockquote>

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