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<blockquote data-quote="Question" data-source="post: 2959883" data-attributes="member: 40104"><p>I think we desperately need a 3.5 ELH.</p><p></p><p>Colossuses are completely imba. They are like CR 50 for the sheer annoyance. Good luck killing that thing without magic. That said i suppose if your DM throws you a few artifact weapons and epic spells, you could, thereotically, do it.</p><p></p><p>Hecatoneiruses are completley silly. Monsters or PCs near its CR should be able to come up with enough DR to laugh at 100 non-magical greatswords. God im not even sure how a DM is supposed to roll attack and damages for 100 greatswords. Per round.</p><p></p><p>Epic spells are totally weak. The spellcraft DC to cast them is insane. Not to mention a 30th level PC can(IIRC) just barely research epic mage armor, one of the most simple epic spells, and not go down a level. You need like a item that gives you +50 bonus to spellcraft to cast more epic spells, and thats assuming a level 30 caster. Lets be a bit...realistic here folks.</p><p></p><p>XP costs for epic items are CRAZYYYY.....i cannot imagine anything less than 40th level PCs being able to afford to craft epic items without de-leveling. </p><p></p><p>And look at the epic special abilities you can put on weapons. Retarded. Not only do you need a minimum of +6 to put them, most of them are +8 market mod.......for......GET THIS.......a burst ability that does +3d6 elemental damage on normal hits and multiplies on criticals. You cant even afford these at level 30, and there are tons of monsters below CR30 that will easily laugh at 3d6 elemental damage.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Question, post: 2959883, member: 40104"] I think we desperately need a 3.5 ELH. Colossuses are completely imba. They are like CR 50 for the sheer annoyance. Good luck killing that thing without magic. That said i suppose if your DM throws you a few artifact weapons and epic spells, you could, thereotically, do it. Hecatoneiruses are completley silly. Monsters or PCs near its CR should be able to come up with enough DR to laugh at 100 non-magical greatswords. God im not even sure how a DM is supposed to roll attack and damages for 100 greatswords. Per round. Epic spells are totally weak. The spellcraft DC to cast them is insane. Not to mention a 30th level PC can(IIRC) just barely research epic mage armor, one of the most simple epic spells, and not go down a level. You need like a item that gives you +50 bonus to spellcraft to cast more epic spells, and thats assuming a level 30 caster. Lets be a bit...realistic here folks. XP costs for epic items are CRAZYYYY.....i cannot imagine anything less than 40th level PCs being able to afford to craft epic items without de-leveling. And look at the epic special abilities you can put on weapons. Retarded. Not only do you need a minimum of +6 to put them, most of them are +8 market mod.......for......GET THIS.......a burst ability that does +3d6 elemental damage on normal hits and multiplies on criticals. You cant even afford these at level 30, and there are tons of monsters below CR30 that will easily laugh at 3d6 elemental damage. [/QUOTE]
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