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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 3194022" data-attributes="member: 141">Hmmm.  It is getting complicated, isn't it?First, I think you mean enlarge, not extend.  And when I designed Magnipotent and Arcane Accoutrement, I thought that the change of base parameters happened just before and just after the feat worked.  While you are applying the feat you still follow the DDT (double double is a triple) rule.  Not the DDQ rule (double double is a quadruple).For example, suppose you apply those factors first when casting a magnipotent fireball. You might widen it nine times (+27 SP) and enlarge the range three times (+6 SP) to get a 200-ft. radius fireball at extreme (4800 ft.) range.  That radius and range would be the new basis for further factors.  If you added another widen to it (+3 SP) you'd get a 400-ft. radius fireball.  Another widen would make it 600-ft. radius, and so on.  DDT, not DDQ.Or suppose you add two widens to the original fireball to make it 60-ft. radius.  Then apply 9 widenings to it using magnipotent; the final radius would still be 600-ft.Which is pretty big, but if magnipotent worked by changing the base parameter each time widen was added, you could octuple the range with 3 enlargements (to 9600 ft) and then increase the radius 512-fold with the other 27 SP in free factors (9 doublings)  That would be a 10,000 ft. spread.  I suppose you'd make yourself ground zero and blast everything within a two mile radius of yourself.  That is considerably more than I was thinking it would do.  Do you think it should do this?  If so, then you've certainly gotten over your fear of exponential factors!With this spell you'd want to make it an emanation; people won't benefit from the stickiness if it only lasts 1 round.  You don't want to affect enemies, so you need to include a +10 multiplicity factor.  Otherwise you make secondary range and primary range the same (+10 long would do).  So 30 SP to affect all allies within long range (1200 ft.) Arcane Accoutrement could pay for that.  7 magnifies (+35) would make it 9600 ft..  That's all your Seed Spasm and then some; 5 SP have to be paid for out of regular factors. DR would make a spell ineligible for Arcane Accoutrement (AA only gives non-epic benefits, and DR isn't on the list), so you couldn't provide that.  Strength (+3) and bonus to attacks (+4) is OK. You could give 30 HP (+3) and +5 natural armor (+5) each in lieu of DR. And +30 speed (+3) to enable them to charge farther than could be expected (and maybe draw AoOs- but that is what the hp would be for!). +30 to tumble checks (+3). Reduced duration cancels swift action, and no somatic is +2.  That's 28 SP (counting the bit of magnification that Seed Spasm didn't pay for).  But only within 1/4 of a mile, not a whole mile.[edit] You posted Primordial Firestorm when I was composing this post- I think Magnipotent has to obey DDT when its factors are being spent.  That would make it a 180-ft radius fireball.  Not insignificant, but nothing like 1 mile.  And the range is "only" 6000-ft.</blockquote>

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