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<blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 1242796" data-attributes="member: 5777"><p>How about for hp instead just add 'epic hd'?</p><p></p><p>Give them 10 extra epic hd, d12, best bab, all good saves, 8 skill points/hd, all nonexclusive skills.</p><p></p><p>so this yields 10d12 +10xconmod (avg 65 + 10xconmod), +10BAB, +7 to all saves, 80 skill points</p><p></p><p>it'd be fast and dirty, but clean up a few of the edging issues. The bab is already covered, the saves are as well, and if the creature has at least 8 different skills ignore the skill points, if they have less then give them a few skills at +20 (such as spot and listen) to make up for it. Easy, and nearly perfect <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Also, for initiative. How about +5 or doubles whichever is higher? this makes sure there is always a benefit, and for creatures who already had a big one they will keep their lead.</p><p></p><p>I think the adjustments for stats should still be made though, not sure if they were glossed over and ignored above.</p><p></p><p>As for the 25 epic AC. I'd have to say that at least 18 of it should count for touch, but to make it easy just say 15 touch probably <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Try this stuff out on your kobold? see how he goes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scion, post: 1242796, member: 5777"] How about for hp instead just add 'epic hd'? Give them 10 extra epic hd, d12, best bab, all good saves, 8 skill points/hd, all nonexclusive skills. so this yields 10d12 +10xconmod (avg 65 + 10xconmod), +10BAB, +7 to all saves, 80 skill points it'd be fast and dirty, but clean up a few of the edging issues. The bab is already covered, the saves are as well, and if the creature has at least 8 different skills ignore the skill points, if they have less then give them a few skills at +20 (such as spot and listen) to make up for it. Easy, and nearly perfect ;) Also, for initiative. How about +5 or doubles whichever is higher? this makes sure there is always a benefit, and for creatures who already had a big one they will keep their lead. I think the adjustments for stats should still be made though, not sure if they were glossed over and ignored above. As for the 25 epic AC. I'd have to say that at least 18 of it should count for touch, but to make it easy just say 15 touch probably ;) Try this stuff out on your kobold? see how he goes. [/QUOTE]
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