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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Trainz" data-source="post: 1242976" data-attributes="member: 2122">I understand your concerns, and I appreciate you taking the time to give me feedback. The down and dirty answer is quite simple: I need canon fodder for my epic game. Of course I don't just throw critters after critters at my PC's so that they can get epic-loads of X.P.. I like the larger-than-life aspect of epic gaming, and my games are colorful. The context of the combats is colorful too. Let me address your concerns point-by-point: "I mean, an epic-level threat that's only a 1st level warrior? I understand your point about it taking longer to advance a monster or add character levels (I'd probably do a little of both), but I think it's worth it to make NPCs and monsters that at least make sense according to the rules. " The 1st level warrior thing is an artefact from the cut-n-paste I did from the SRD. It is just basically a kobold. I just slapped an attitude to it. From my experience, not everything has to be perfect to every single digit behind the DM's screen. So what if you give a critter a +23 BAB when, after precise and time consuming calculations, you find out it's actually +20 ? You still add a d20 to it.  The players will be none the wiser, and if you have a good flow during the game, that's all that matters. It never was an issue IMC, in over 18 years gaming. I still want it to be as close as possible, but I'm making a compromise between practicality and digits. "What's the mechanism whereby this guy gets his "epic" template? " Same one that allows for Paragon creatures. Same one that allows creature advancement. They are just more powerful and more rare representatives of their species. "Just add half-fiend or something. " Not high enough. Most templates gravitate around CR +1 or +2, and don't really boost critters that much. "Is he an exceptional member of the species? Make him a paragon. " I do that, but then many critters are out of the range of what I want to throw at the PC's. Paragon is CR +15, so for an epic game of say 24 level, that's good for critters in the CR 7 to 10 range. If I have a lesser template (my Epic template) at +10, then my range expands from CR 7 up to 15. I want to throw a few glabrezu at the PC's, so they think "Hah ! Glabrezus ! Heh !" and then *WHACK*... "Woah... where did THAT come from ? ? !" "Just a really experienced dude? Add fighter levels. " Yup, but that doesn't enhance critters with (Su) or (Sp) abilities. Slap 10 fighter levels on a Nalfeshnee, and you're just throwing X.P.'s at your PC's. Give it 10 Sorceror levels, and still it will be a cakewalk for a 24 level dude, because the 10 sorceror levels won't have the output in damage and S.T. DC's of a CR 22 critter. They won't stack with the 'Shnee's ability, they will be "aside"... "Otherwise you are going to have some players wondering what the hell kinda steroids the local kobolds are on, and where they can score some themselves..." Nah... they'll just have a blast, and have a feeling of marvel at fighting ol' critters that they thought where a thing of the past.</blockquote>

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