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Message: <blockquote data-quote="questionmark" data-source="post: 1402246" data-attributes="member: 11394">Another point about epic is tactics, especially nasty tactics.  My players had a pretty long run of overwhelming victories were they felt in danger, but not that "oh crap were all so screwed" kind of danger, until this weekend...long story short, Fighting an elite group of yuan ti.  the yuan ti had corrupted some near epic purple dragon knights,  these knights (two) and an epic abomination (with spiked chain) were to prevent the party from interrupting the corruption ceremony of an epic hero named glen.  They looked at the knights and the yuan ti and for some reason went "easy fight" and charged in.  Now the bread and butter of this group is the epic Ftr/Barb's dire charge.  thanks to a 90 degree turn in a hallway this was not possible.  so instead the Ftr/Barb got one hit off instead of his ussual five in the first round.  next the epic monk tumbles past the knights and begins to subdual atk the yuan ti(hits three times).  Astral deva of the party tries to full power atk the badguys (misses).  Bad guys turn, they all atk the Deva and the f/barb.  They hit the barb 5 times(one crit) for like 200+ dmg.  The deva gets hit a bunch too (189) damage.   on the next round the monk notices that some of the bruises he had put on the yuan ti are going away.  He switches to lethal damage and does like 130 damage. barb kills one of the knights, the deva jumps back 5 feet and cast Heal on himself.  Badguys turn...  more damage to the barb and the monk (94, 100dmg).  Next round the monk sees "all of the yuan ti's wounds close".  Monk says "oh crap super regen" and goes into super defense mode missing his atk. barb hits the yuan ti for 200 dmg astral deva tries to pwr atk(misses). badguys kill the barb and hurt the deva.  Monk sticks to full imp. combat exp. atral deva atks the p. knight drops him.  the yuanti hits the deva for alot of damage.  next couple of rounds the yuanti cant be hit by the monk, and the deva flat out rolls bad so it looks like the deva is about to die.  the monk begins planning for a retreat.  the astral deva crits and stuns the yuan ti.  they finish it off from there.  they go get the barb raised and return to the area to find the bad guys bodies gone and further inspection of the building finds the glen's signiture holy short swords lying on the ground(this indicates that the ritual was a success since the weapons are worthless to someone evil).we stopped there for the day.  Immediatly the players asked what kind of regen the yuan ti had.  Thats when I explained the spell stowaway feat.  When the deva used heal it healed the yuan ti as well.  Realizing they had been duped ( and that their own metagaming resulted in the duping)there was some protest that the term "you see the yuan ti's wounds close" as misleading and suggestive of regen.  I just smiled and said welcome to the big leagues.  That session they learned that tactics still matter in epic play and metagaming what a monster has can backfire.</blockquote>

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