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<blockquote data-quote="Archetype" data-source="post: 3239642" data-attributes="member: 40688"><p>Sure. I get the "time-saving cinematic license" angle. It was just so BADLY done, it was embarassing to watch.</p><p></p><p>And, no, I am not speaking from the viewpoint of someone unable to concieve of a "different dragon biology," or other such enjoyment-blinders. I for one thought that Safira's bird-wings variation looked pretty unique, and I was really looking foreward to a cool, new concept of the "Fantasy Dragon" mythotype that was worth exploring over a few movies. I was expecting so much more than the bland, cobbled-together mess which they presented in the movie.</p><p></p><p>OK, so there are NO dragons left. Oh, wait. Except the Evil King's dragon (which we never really see or even get a hint of in this movie...why not?) And he had a big blue jellybaby that he got from...where? And when did he lose it exactly? The Princess Leia Clone from the beginning acts like it had been passed down from generation to generation, waiting for the dragon inside to find the right yellow-haired farmboy to hatch in front of. But then the Evil King acts like he just lost it last Wednesday, and must have it back right away before he has to spout any more Really Bad Dialogue about it. Which was it? Why don't we care?</p><p></p><p>Here's a moral impass that never happened in the writing. If Safira is the *LAST DRAGON* and if her rider dies she will die (but not visa-versa), then why the hell is he risking her life and the future of an *entire ancient species* to show up and grandstand in a lame "final confrontation" battle that probably could have been avoided anyway? Since the poorly illustrated map they used didn't really tell the viewer where exactly in the geography this all was taking place, we don't get why the "Rebels" don't just pack up their faux-Zulu wardrobes and relocate to Studio C over the next ridge. Are we really supposed to buy that all the significant players in a generations-long resistance against an oppresive dictator were *all* concentrated in one indefensible complex, hoping that someone else would intervene and save their butts once they were eventually found out? Any such pack of morons certainly deserves to be wiped out if that's the best they can do. </p><p></p><p>You would think that Luke...er whatshisname...would have developed a deeper bond with the magnificent mythological creature from ancient times which chose *him* to pal around with, rather than a bunch of seemingly brainless strangers he knows nothing about. Why not let them get wiped out if need be, go away and raise an <em>entire new generation of dragons</em> and *then* come back and go after the Big Bad Guy with a sizeable draconic attack force? (After all, dragons don't have to "grow up" any more, they just ...."plump when you cook 'em"...or something like that.)</p><p></p><p>Anyway, there are so many BETTER "dragonrider" novels and stories to explore that I am still disgusted that this piece of stolen-screenplay-cut-and-paste got greenlighted instead. Oh how much more interesting Barbara Hambley's <em>Dragonsbane</em> novel would have been on the big screen. Or McCaffrey's <em>Dragonriders of Pern</em> or even something from any <em>Dragonlance</em> source.</p><p></p><p>I guess the question is:</p><p></p><p>"Is it better to have LAME Fantasy, or NO FANTASY at all in our cineplexes?"</p><p></p><p>I vote for "None at all," with the option of waiting until something worthwhile gets made instead.</p><p></p><p>What would you vote?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Archetype, post: 3239642, member: 40688"] Sure. I get the "time-saving cinematic license" angle. It was just so BADLY done, it was embarassing to watch. And, no, I am not speaking from the viewpoint of someone unable to concieve of a "different dragon biology," or other such enjoyment-blinders. I for one thought that Safira's bird-wings variation looked pretty unique, and I was really looking foreward to a cool, new concept of the "Fantasy Dragon" mythotype that was worth exploring over a few movies. I was expecting so much more than the bland, cobbled-together mess which they presented in the movie. OK, so there are NO dragons left. Oh, wait. Except the Evil King's dragon (which we never really see or even get a hint of in this movie...why not?) And he had a big blue jellybaby that he got from...where? And when did he lose it exactly? The Princess Leia Clone from the beginning acts like it had been passed down from generation to generation, waiting for the dragon inside to find the right yellow-haired farmboy to hatch in front of. But then the Evil King acts like he just lost it last Wednesday, and must have it back right away before he has to spout any more Really Bad Dialogue about it. Which was it? Why don't we care? Here's a moral impass that never happened in the writing. If Safira is the *LAST DRAGON* and if her rider dies she will die (but not visa-versa), then why the hell is he risking her life and the future of an *entire ancient species* to show up and grandstand in a lame "final confrontation" battle that probably could have been avoided anyway? Since the poorly illustrated map they used didn't really tell the viewer where exactly in the geography this all was taking place, we don't get why the "Rebels" don't just pack up their faux-Zulu wardrobes and relocate to Studio C over the next ridge. Are we really supposed to buy that all the significant players in a generations-long resistance against an oppresive dictator were *all* concentrated in one indefensible complex, hoping that someone else would intervene and save their butts once they were eventually found out? Any such pack of morons certainly deserves to be wiped out if that's the best they can do. You would think that Luke...er whatshisname...would have developed a deeper bond with the magnificent mythological creature from ancient times which chose *him* to pal around with, rather than a bunch of seemingly brainless strangers he knows nothing about. Why not let them get wiped out if need be, go away and raise an [i]entire new generation of dragons[/i] and *then* come back and go after the Big Bad Guy with a sizeable draconic attack force? (After all, dragons don't have to "grow up" any more, they just ...."plump when you cook 'em"...or something like that.) Anyway, there are so many BETTER "dragonrider" novels and stories to explore that I am still disgusted that this piece of stolen-screenplay-cut-and-paste got greenlighted instead. Oh how much more interesting Barbara Hambley's [i]Dragonsbane[/i] novel would have been on the big screen. Or McCaffrey's [i]Dragonriders of Pern[/i] or even something from any [i]Dragonlance[/i] source. I guess the question is: "Is it better to have LAME Fantasy, or NO FANTASY at all in our cineplexes?" I vote for "None at all," with the option of waiting until something worthwhile gets made instead. What would you vote? [/QUOTE]
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