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<blockquote data-quote="Darrell" data-source="post: 3240336" data-attributes="member: 680"><p>They don't. FotR has a beginning, RotK has and end, and TT has neither. They were released at separate times, but were filmed as, essentially, one continuous movie...one single story in multiple parts. That's why I consider them one movie.</p><p></p><p>The same could be (almost) said of <em>Superman</em> & <em>Superman II</em>, more particularly for the recently-released 'Donner version' of <em>Superman II</em>. They were filmed simultaneously (up until the last little while, at least), with the idea of being two parts of one story. The Studio [(TM) a subsidiary of They..."'They' won't let you..."] stepped in and basically quashed the idea, but Donner's intent was there.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My nephew is 10. He has never seen the Reeve Superman films, and doesn't read comics. His only previous experience with Superman is through videogames and the JLU cartoon (both of which delve very little into Superman's backstory). He had no trouble following the movie at all. </p><p></p><p>The Fortress of Solitude is pretty well covered in one line by Parker Posey's character (something to the effect of, "Is this, like, his house?"), and that's really all you need to know about the Fortress; where it came from is largely irrelevant...it's his 'house.' Mr. Kent? Martha's line, to the effect of, "If your father were here...," makes it fairly clear that he's dead. Again, that's all you <em>need</em> to know. As for the relationship and the kid, it's pretty broadly hinted at that Lois & Superman have a 'past,' and everyone (meaning Jimmy, Perry, etc.) seems to assume that she's still in love with (or at least involved with) him. It is not at all necessary to have seen the Reeve films to understand <em>Superman Returns</em>. It is, in fact, one of the reasons I liked it. It tells you everything you <em>need</em> to know without delving back into 'origin story' material.</p><p></p><p>One of the poxes on superhero movies is the constant need for an origin story. My favorite part about the first 'X-Men' movie was that the entire 'origin and explanatory' stuff consisted of a 30-second (if that) monologue by Patrick Stewart at the outset of the movie. Too bad the guys making <em>The Hulk</em> apparently didn't see it. ("Bruce Banner was exposed to a massive level of Gamma radiation. Now, when he gets mad, he turns into a big, green critter that likes to smash things." Now, get on with the movie...) But I digress...</p><p></p><p>Regards,</p><p>Darrell King</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Darrell, post: 3240336, member: 680"] They don't. FotR has a beginning, RotK has and end, and TT has neither. They were released at separate times, but were filmed as, essentially, one continuous movie...one single story in multiple parts. That's why I consider them one movie. The same could be (almost) said of [I]Superman[/I] & [I]Superman II[/I], more particularly for the recently-released 'Donner version' of [I]Superman II[/I]. They were filmed simultaneously (up until the last little while, at least), with the idea of being two parts of one story. The Studio [(TM) a subsidiary of They..."'They' won't let you..."] stepped in and basically quashed the idea, but Donner's intent was there. My nephew is 10. He has never seen the Reeve Superman films, and doesn't read comics. His only previous experience with Superman is through videogames and the JLU cartoon (both of which delve very little into Superman's backstory). He had no trouble following the movie at all. The Fortress of Solitude is pretty well covered in one line by Parker Posey's character (something to the effect of, "Is this, like, his house?"), and that's really all you need to know about the Fortress; where it came from is largely irrelevant...it's his 'house.' Mr. Kent? Martha's line, to the effect of, "If your father were here...," makes it fairly clear that he's dead. Again, that's all you [I]need[/I] to know. As for the relationship and the kid, it's pretty broadly hinted at that Lois & Superman have a 'past,' and everyone (meaning Jimmy, Perry, etc.) seems to assume that she's still in love with (or at least involved with) him. It is not at all necessary to have seen the Reeve films to understand [I]Superman Returns[/I]. It is, in fact, one of the reasons I liked it. It tells you everything you [I]need[/I] to know without delving back into 'origin story' material. One of the poxes on superhero movies is the constant need for an origin story. My favorite part about the first 'X-Men' movie was that the entire 'origin and explanatory' stuff consisted of a 30-second (if that) monologue by Patrick Stewart at the outset of the movie. Too bad the guys making [I]The Hulk[/I] apparently didn't see it. ("Bruce Banner was exposed to a massive level of Gamma radiation. Now, when he gets mad, he turns into a big, green critter that likes to smash things." Now, get on with the movie...) But I digress... Regards, Darrell King [/QUOTE]
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