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<blockquote data-quote="Darrell" data-source="post: 3240521" data-attributes="member: 680">Yes, actually.&nbsp; More so, I'd say, with SR than ESB.In SR, there are no 'little things' from the previous movie(s) to have to see.&nbsp; There are reiterations, 'easter eggs,' and line similarities for those who want to place them in context with the Reeve movies, but these do not add to or detract from the movie.&nbsp; The only things you need to know about Superman are that he's from Krypton, he became 'Earth's Greatest Hero (TM),' he went away, and now he's come back.&nbsp; Luthor is a Bad Guy (TM), he stole some 'Krypton-stuff' for a plot he's hatching, and Superman (as 'Earth's Greatest Heroes' are wont to do) stops him.&nbsp; All references to the earlier films/TV shows/etc. are superfluous.&nbsp; They could have been left out completely without changing the film at all.&nbsp; Someone walking into SR cold, with no previous experience with Superman, is told everything they need to know without need of any outside source of information.&nbsp; All the better, I might add, for those (like me) who have added SR to (and pointedly excluded the Reeve movies from) their DVD collection as a 'reboot' of the franchise (in a similar vein to Batman Begins) instead of a continuation of a 'series.'&nbsp; There are more of the 'little things' in ESB...almost from the word 'go.'&nbsp; To someone who'd not seen Star Wars, they see: Luke is attacked by the big furry thing.&nbsp; We find him hanging upside down in its lair, his 'sword' just out of his reach, as the critter is approaching.&nbsp; Suddenly, his 'sword' magically leaps into his hand, enabling him to free himself and fight the big bad critter.&nbsp; Why??&nbsp; Basic concepts and characters, like, say The Force or Obi-Wan are referenced or shown with no explanation of what or who they are.&nbsp; Now, granted, Lucas assumed everyone seeing ESB would have seen SW (a likely assumption at the time, less so today), and much of it is, as you say, easy to follow.&nbsp; It's pretty obvious from his initial entrance that Vader is the big bad-ass bad guy.&nbsp; My main dispute with ESB (apart from the general distaste I've developed for pretty much all things Star Wars) is that it begins in the middle of the action, goes on for two hours-ish, and ends still in the middle of the action, with no type of real resolution of any major plot points.&nbsp; Again, it's all 'middle.'&nbsp; YMM (and apparently does) V.Regards,Darrell King</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Darrell, post: 3240521, member: 680"] Yes, actually. More so, I'd say, with SR than ESB. In SR, there are no 'little things' from the previous movie(s) to have to see. There are reiterations, 'easter eggs,' and line similarities for those who want to place them in context with the Reeve movies, but these do not add to or detract from the movie. The only things you need to know about Superman are that he's from Krypton, he became 'Earth's Greatest Hero (TM),' he went away, and now he's come back. Luthor is a Bad Guy (TM), he stole some 'Krypton-stuff' for a plot he's hatching, and Superman (as 'Earth's Greatest Heroes' are wont to do) stops him. All references to the earlier films/TV shows/etc. are superfluous. They could have been left out completely without changing the film at all. Someone walking into SR cold, with no previous experience with Superman, is told everything they need to know without need of any outside source of information. All the better, I might add, for those (like me) who have added SR to (and pointedly excluded the Reeve movies from) their DVD collection as a 'reboot' of the franchise (in a similar vein to [I]Batman Begins[/I]) instead of a continuation of a 'series.' There are more of the 'little things' in ESB...almost from the word 'go.' To someone who'd not seen [I]Star Wars[/I], they see: Luke is attacked by the big furry thing. We find him hanging upside down in its lair, his 'sword' just out of his reach, as the critter is approaching. Suddenly, his 'sword' magically leaps into his hand, enabling him to free himself and fight the big bad critter. Why?? Basic concepts and characters, like, say The Force or Obi-Wan are referenced or shown with no explanation of what or who they are. Now, granted, Lucas assumed everyone seeing ESB would have seen SW (a likely assumption at the time, less so today), and much of it is, as you say, easy to follow. It's pretty obvious from his initial entrance that Vader is the big bad-ass bad guy. My main dispute with ESB (apart from the general distaste I've developed for pretty much all things Star Wars) is that it begins in the middle of the action, goes on for two hours-ish, and ends [I]still[/I] in the middle of the action, with no type of real resolution of any major plot points. Again, it's all 'middle.' YMM (and apparently does) V. Regards, Darrell King [/QUOTE]

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