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Message: <blockquote data-quote="spectre72" data-source="post: 2986561" data-attributes="member: 18885">Well I was not surprised at all by anything in the post.WOTC and many other companies have found that plastic crack, paper crack, and other Collectible items = $$$$So why would anyone be surprised to see a 4th edition that includes more emphasis on miniatures, and maybe even a card component to add even further to the costs of playing.If miniatures and Magic are the only thing that is making money (I have heard this quite a few times before from many different sources and it goes back as far as when I was a demo person for WOTC) why not migrate the CCG/miniatures business model to RPG's.Collectible cards with feats, spells, magic items, ...etc. not available in any book format.If I break the rules up into smaller components and add more fluff people have to buy more items to play.  Perhaps a smaller book for each core class, one for each race, one for combat,  one for equipment, one for magic, ...etc  And I have seen posts by several past WOTC employees that a new version = an instant cash infusion because everyone needs new core rulebooks.Hasbro is all about making money, and a business model where the game has reached a point where only the GM is buying stuff does not equate to as much in sales as several others that I can think of.Personally I have gone through enough editions that it would not matter what 4e looked like I probably would not purchase anything.But if done right Hasbro could turn 4e into an accountants (and stockholders) dream and a players nightmare as they made it almost imposible to play without spending a ton of cash, and by adding a collectible component like cards would cause people to keep spending.But we as gamers (myself included) have shown that we are willing to purchase boxes of Magic cards, cases of heroclix, cases of D&D miniatures, ...etc.  Personally I have stopped all such purchases, but if you read the threads about miniature purchases on this board you routinely hear people saying they have purchased multiple cases of product. Hasbro knows this, and if they want to try and increase profits it is a compulsion that they could try to exploit in the RPG market.So with all that said I firmly believe that 4e is on the way.What it looks like will be anyones guess, but I would not be surprised if it was designed to grab even more of our hard earned money away from us and transfer it to Hasbro's bottom line.The only bright spot for me is that they won't get any of mine. Now before anyone blasts away, I DO NOT HAVE ANY INSIDER INFORMATION.This is entirely opinion and speculation.I just know the mentality of the people who are in charge and trying to make things look good for the stockholders.  To many of them RPG's are a product line, and every product line is expected to add to the profitability of the company.  If it is not performing to expectations then the product is either altered, dropped, or sold off to get a short term balance sheet boost.</blockquote>

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