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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 2987984" data-attributes="member: 957"><p>I'm still not ready to jump to any conclusions. It could certainly happen. But it could still easily be 2 or even (I kinda doubt) 3 years off. </p><p></p><p>But, if it does happen soon my guess is that it will be a re-tool of 3X much more comparable to the 1E to 2E change than the 2E to 3E change.</p><p></p><p>For one, if they want 4E to draw away from 3E, the bar is set very high. </p><p>For another, I agree that minis is a big big part of the overall strategy. Not just RPG, but wider than that. And I don't think they plan to re-tool DDM any time soon. So I bet DDM will stay the same and a hypothetical 4E will still offer cross-over appeal with this existing product. </p><p></p><p>I'd think they would significantly re-tool stuff, but it would have a clear resemblance.</p><p>Toss out a core race or two. Add in a race or two.</p><p>Re-work core classes. Make classes a lot more customizable, for example. </p><p>Maybe toss the monk or the paladin (over to PClass) and add scout and/or warlock.</p><p>Tweak spellcasting and BAB progressions. Tweak spells and feats. Whatever.</p><p>A bunch of simple stuff that could make it a clear new edition. (for example, people do nto confuse AE with 3X, but clearly they are the same fundamental game)</p><p></p><p>Anyway, this would be much bigger changes than 3.5 was. And 3.5 allowed them to start over re-cycling all the standard splat books and supplements. Six months after 4E you get the FR and Eberron handbooks with the worlds re-visioned to include the new versions of wizards and the inclusion of warlocks as a core base. For example.</p><p></p><p>It seems as close as you can get to "best of both worlds" from a seller PoV.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 2987984, member: 957"] I'm still not ready to jump to any conclusions. It could certainly happen. But it could still easily be 2 or even (I kinda doubt) 3 years off. But, if it does happen soon my guess is that it will be a re-tool of 3X much more comparable to the 1E to 2E change than the 2E to 3E change. For one, if they want 4E to draw away from 3E, the bar is set very high. For another, I agree that minis is a big big part of the overall strategy. Not just RPG, but wider than that. And I don't think they plan to re-tool DDM any time soon. So I bet DDM will stay the same and a hypothetical 4E will still offer cross-over appeal with this existing product. I'd think they would significantly re-tool stuff, but it would have a clear resemblance. Toss out a core race or two. Add in a race or two. Re-work core classes. Make classes a lot more customizable, for example. Maybe toss the monk or the paladin (over to PClass) and add scout and/or warlock. Tweak spellcasting and BAB progressions. Tweak spells and feats. Whatever. A bunch of simple stuff that could make it a clear new edition. (for example, people do nto confuse AE with 3X, but clearly they are the same fundamental game) Anyway, this would be much bigger changes than 3.5 was. And 3.5 allowed them to start over re-cycling all the standard splat books and supplements. Six months after 4E you get the FR and Eberron handbooks with the worlds re-visioned to include the new versions of wizards and the inclusion of warlocks as a core base. For example. It seems as close as you can get to "best of both worlds" from a seller PoV. [/QUOTE]
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