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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zaruthustran" data-source="post: 3000426" data-attributes="member: 1457">I think we agree on this. I think the current edition is fine, from a core mechanics standpoint. So a "4th edition" that is just more of the same would be a waste. And therefore, if they do make a 4th Edition, it should not be more of the same--it should be dramatically different.I'm not advocating a complex 3D online gaming world. I'm advocating a subscription-based service as the best way to:1) monetize the legions of D&D players who, for whatever reason, don't buy minis and supplements/don't provide new revenue to WotC after they buy the three core books.2) distribute errata and encourage players to actually *use* any new material they do buy, by incorporating a rules-flawless character generator and storage system. I've seen more than one person comment that the new Tome of Battle book is too confusing, and that they won't buy it for that reason. The ENWorld staff reviewer spent a half hour trying to create a character and couldn't figure out how to calculate his various feats and bonuses. So wouldn't it be great if WotC's online character generator handled all the BS work for you? Bonus: being forced to enter all the variables into the chargen system and test it would reveal many bugs and inconsistencies that currently make their way into the printed books.It's called wireless networking. Look into it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Seriously though, the books will still be there if you want them, either in bound or printable PDF form. Your complaint is a non-issue.Again, I'm not advocating online 3D worlds. Surely you currently enjoy subscription-based entertainment: cable, Dragon magazine, the ISP you're using to access ENWorld. A $2-$5 a month fee for what I'm describing is reasonable.In the situation you describe, each player is responsible for seeking out errata and updating their personal collection. In the situation I describe, the errata is pushed to all users at once. Everyone is playing from the same rules. Isn't that one of the goals of 3E?For better or worse, that has become the focus of the D&D game: character optimization. If you're not creating a character with efficiency and effectiveness in mind, you're not playing the same game as WotC's most important customers. Meaning, the customers that continue to buy all the new books with all the new feats and PRCs and other character-enhancing doodads. 3.5, by design, is all about enhancing the character and overcoming monsters in combat. True. I need a single, online database I can access from anywhere in the world, that keeps track of all this stuff for me, and auto-updates my character sheet. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />See this game:<a href="http://www.poxnora.com/index.do" target="_blank">http://www.poxnora.com/index.do</a>It's generating quite a buzz.  Problem solved for you. What about the other players? Convention-goers? Students who game in publicly-owned spaces?Like Egon says, "Print is dead."Or should be, anyway. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />-z</blockquote>

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