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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EricNoah" data-source="post: 353154" data-attributes="member: 4">More thoughts (this went out in an e-mail to my group):-------------Ok, I want to first make sure I totally understand the logistics of subdual damage.  Here's an example I whipped up.  Let me know if it makes sense...-----------Subdual Example:  Jennina (8th level fighter, 60 hp max) suffers 30 hp damage from a lightning bolt, then takes 40 subdual damage from a waterball.  Because her total subdual damage exceeds her current hp total, she falls unconscious.  She’s left for dead and allowed to recover.  She has a 10% chance each minute to regain consciousness and become “staggered.”  Within a few minutes she succeeds at her roll and regains consciousness.  She rests for two hours, regaining 8 subdual points each hour (1 point per character level).  By the end of the second hour she’s no longer staggered, but she’s still at 30 hp – and with 24 subdual points still racked up she’s only 6 hp (or 6 subdual points) away from being in trouble again.  Now let’s imagine a situation where there’s a "tend serious wounds" spell that turns her hit point damage into subdual damage.  If she’s tended for 20, that means now she’s at 50 hp but has 44 subdual points.  She’s still 6 hp (or 6 subdual points)  away from being unconscious.  But now those 44 subdual points will be removed at a rate of 8 per hour.  6 hours of rest and she’s as good as new -- except she's still short 10 hit points.  If she can get a full 24 hours rest, she can gain back 8 hp and be very close to perfect health.  -----As I'm researching and exploring I have had some ideas:1) I would like to consider changing certain kinds of attacks so they do subdual damage by default.  Slam attacks, buffets, certain weapons like a club or quarterstaff (maybe any blunt weapon that's smaller than the victim's size category -- so a light mace vs. a human), and maybe even certain energy types (cold and sonic come to mind).  This would reduce some of the lethality.2) I'm not sure how easy/hard it will be to deal with the logistics of subdual damage tracking.  When I think of them as "real damage" and "temporary damage" it starts to click a bit.  With my monsters I always counted the hp from the left and subdual damage from the right and when they meet, unconsciousness.  3) What do you think of the names tend light wounds, tend moderate wounds, tend serious wounds, tend critical wounds, tend all wounds?  The "tending" spells would be swapable like cure spells are for standard clerics.4) Thinking about druids -- there's a regenerate wounds series of spells in Masters of the Wild -- that might go well as an alternative.  Not so hot in the short term but maybe good with a bit of rest (esp when combined with the body's ability to heal its subdual damage at a higher rate).  I might look at extending the relatively puny duration and not limit it to wounds suffered since the spell started.  5) Also thinking about necromancy -- spells like death knell and vampiric touch.  I think I like them better in this world!  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  You typically have to trade someone else's hit points to get some for yourself.  Very evil!</blockquote>

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