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<blockquote data-quote="Corwin" data-source="post: 75067" data-attributes="member: 1560"><p>There is all this mention of 0/0 apprentice characters (from the DMG) getting the extra feat. To quote a famous swordsman, "I do not think that word means what you think it means."</p><p></p><p>I am at a loss as to how some of you come to the conclusion that apprentice level PCs gain an <em>extra</em> feat. Care to explain?</p><p></p><p>An multiclassed apprentice (0/0) PC is still a 1st level character and gets a feat right then and there, just like any other 1st level PC. At second level, they complete their apprenticeship in their classes and become 1/1. They do not then get any further feats at that point. Even if one of their classes is fighter. That is because the bonus 1st level fighter feat was given to them at 0th level (since that's really the only special thing a fighter gets starting out).</p><p></p><p>If it makes things clearer, Monte Cook once described the idea of 0/0 apprentice classes as more like ½/½. In fact, when I spoke to him on the matter long ago, we discussed the fact that a fighter-0/ranger-0 would more appropriately have a +1 BAB (insead of the +0 the book would suggest). This is do to the fact that both apprentice classes have a good BAB progression and each apprentice level should really confur a +½. Normally, the <em>round down rule</em> would eliminate the bonus, but not in all cases. But that is technically a house rule since it is not in the books.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Corwin, post: 75067, member: 1560"] There is all this mention of 0/0 apprentice characters (from the DMG) getting the extra feat. To quote a famous swordsman, "I do not think that word means what you think it means." I am at a loss as to how some of you come to the conclusion that apprentice level PCs gain an [i]extra[/i] feat. Care to explain? An multiclassed apprentice (0/0) PC is still a 1st level character and gets a feat right then and there, just like any other 1st level PC. At second level, they complete their apprenticeship in their classes and become 1/1. They do not then get any further feats at that point. Even if one of their classes is fighter. That is because the bonus 1st level fighter feat was given to them at 0th level (since that's really the only special thing a fighter gets starting out). If it makes things clearer, Monte Cook once described the idea of 0/0 apprentice classes as more like ½/½. In fact, when I spoke to him on the matter long ago, we discussed the fact that a fighter-0/ranger-0 would more appropriately have a +1 BAB (insead of the +0 the book would suggest). This is do to the fact that both apprentice classes have a good BAB progression and each apprentice level should really confur a +½. Normally, the [i]round down rule[/i] would eliminate the bonus, but not in all cases. But that is technically a house rule since it is not in the books. [/QUOTE]
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