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<blockquote data-quote="apsuman" data-source="post: 75944" data-attributes="member: 1769">AHA!&nbsp; I found it (I think).&nbsp; See, when I did my summary of the thread I posted that milo and enrious posts appeared before my first post.&nbsp; So, I did not know that Irky or Erky or whatever his name is was a gnome in my first post.&nbsp; I was: 1) trying to remind Tobold about the apprentice rules, 2)fit the fighter's HP at first level with getting the Scribe Scroll feat at first level, while 3)still coming up with a way for a second level character to have three feats.I am not trying to turn the tables here, because I could be wrong here, but you might want to reread parts of this thread.&nbsp; When you did ask the question about who thought an apprentice character got an &quot;extra&quot; feat, nobody had taken the position that simply being an apprentice character yielded a bonus feat.&nbsp; If you can show me where I am wrong, I will gladly apologize.I answered your question because the only way to get an extra feat (total 3) was by being a human.&nbsp; In short, I was trying to agree with you.&nbsp; If you reread my post, I said if you did not know that Irky was a gnome, I was pointing out the only way (that I knew of) for a character to have 2 classes and three feats at level 2 was by being human.When you followed up you said your comments made no mention of race, which (I thought) further made my point that the only (easiest?) way to have two classes with three feats at level two is if you were human.Further, I thought that Gaiden pointed out, or rather stated a little more clearly the breadth of feats possible to a character that had cleric levels.&nbsp; So, here I thought his post was a pretty good one.&nbsp; Probably chalk it up to me not being a cleric person.So when you got , er upset at my post and gaiden's post for not being on topic, I was confused, but I confuse easily.g!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="apsuman, post: 75944, member: 1769"] AHA! I found it (I think). See, when I did my summary of the thread I posted that milo and enrious posts appeared before my first post. So, I did not know that Irky or Erky or whatever his name is was a gnome in my first post. I was: 1) trying to remind Tobold about the apprentice rules, 2)fit the fighter's HP at first level with getting the Scribe Scroll feat at first level, while 3)still coming up with a way for a second level character to have three feats. I am not trying to turn the tables here, because I could be wrong here, but you might want to reread parts of this thread. When you did ask the question about who thought an apprentice character got an "extra" feat, nobody had taken the position that simply being an apprentice character yielded a bonus feat. If you can show me where I am wrong, I will gladly apologize. I answered your question because the only way to get an extra feat (total 3) was by being a human. In short, I was trying to agree with you. If you reread my post, I said if you did not know that Irky was a gnome, I was pointing out the only way (that I knew of) for a character to have 2 classes and three feats at level 2 was by being human. When you followed up you said your comments made no mention of race, which (I thought) further made my point that the only (easiest?) way to have two classes with three feats at level two is if you were human. Further, I thought that Gaiden pointed out, or rather stated a little more clearly the breadth of feats possible to a character that had cleric levels. So, here I thought his post was a pretty good one. Probably chalk it up to me not being a cleric person. So when you got , er upset at my post and gaiden's post for not being on topic, I was confused, but I confuse easily. g! [/QUOTE]

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