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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kinneus" data-source="post: 4759195" data-attributes="member: 48215">Bolded for emphasis. Simply put; they're not. There are many people out that there hold the opinion that the Fighter is still the best Defender class, certainly better than the Paladin and Swordmage, at least. Sword 'n board seems to be the favored build, even after Martial Power gave them more toys to play with. They're a very well-designed class. Most games I play in have banned or severely limited MP content, and plenty of players still play Fighters, and either outpace or equal Paladins and Swordmages (Swordmages and Fighters compliment each other ridiculously well, actually). I will admit that I haven't seen the Warden in play yet, so I don't know how they stack up to the Fighter, but I really doubt they'd blow them out of the water.I really don't understand at all where phil500 is coming from, and I'd appreciate him coming back to explain his comments.</blockquote>