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<blockquote data-quote="Desh-Rae-Halra" data-source="post: 6752305" data-attributes="member: 81852"><p>I'm in the same boat...did the rating of <strong>Brutal</strong> get diminished? This review isn't brutal in the least. </p><p>Brutal might have looked something like this:</p><p></p><p>Ok, why didnt this include a fold-out poster map, or at th bare minimum have the map laid out over 2 pages? for Christ's sake, I am going to have to go see my opthamologist so I can make out where things are with likely a stronger pair odf glasses</p><p></p><p>The Background section, with the exception of the Far Traveler, is sorely lacking. It's great we have a few more backgrounds,but when it gets to the Suggested Characteristics, in all cases except the Far Traveler, you are just going back to use something different in the Players Handbook.</p><p>To WotC I ask: Was it too god-damned hard to come up with more than 6 more personality traits, 6 Ideals, 6 bonds and 6 flaws for 11 new backgrounds? It must of been, because that's all you added!</p><p>Oh, yeah lets look at what you did: You just suggest using the tables in the Players Handbook.</p><p> Lets look at the Courtier from SCAG: It recommends the Guild Artisan Backgrouind...yeah, because pounding out a set of platemail gauntlets clearly is about th same as the high court politics and intrigue (DERP ALERT).</p><p>Lets look a the Bonds:</p><p>1. "The workshop where I learned my trade...." Ok, MAYBE the Court could be your "workshop", but that is a stretch</p><p>2. "I created a great work for someone.." NOPE, maybe I paid or blackmailed someone to do that....</p><p>3. "I owe my guild a great debt...." Great, EXCEPT COURTIERS ARENT IN A GUILD UNLESS THEY HAVE SOMEHOW UNIONIZED</p><p>4. "I pursue wealth..." this one is actually ok</p><p>5. "One day I will return to my guild and prove I am the greatest artisan of all" SEE #3 ABOVE. ALSO: Why not take the time to just re-write these so they actually fit. "one day i will return to my homeland and prove I am the greatest King/Queen/Leader of all"....absolutely lazy.</p><p>6. " I will get revenge on the evil..." maybe a bit workable with again tweaks. </p><p></p><p>I get that the idea is for me to do the work, BUT SERIOUSLY, if I am paying $40, or even $25 on Amazon for a 160 page book, I want YOU TO DO THE WORK BEFORE HAND WotC. </p><p></p><p>Also,new Cantrips: YOU ONLY GAVE US 4! WTF!?!?!?!??!</p><p>Let me compare: when you were doing 3rd Edition, players could use all the spells in the Player's Handbook (which is a lot) and yet you still managed to add ANOTHER ENTIRE BOOK OF MAGIC SPELLS. </p><p>Yet somehow now, despite owning all the IP, you can only manage to come up with 4 cantrips? You might as well have just physically taken a dump in each book before shipping because that at least would of showed more effort on a larger scale. </p><p></p><p>This is almost the same piece-of-feces quality as Complete Psionics</p><p></p><p>That is more of what I would consider a "Brutal" review</p><p></p><p>~Desh</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Desh-Rae-Halra, post: 6752305, member: 81852"] I'm in the same boat...did the rating of [B]Brutal[/B] get diminished? This review isn't brutal in the least. Brutal might have looked something like this: Ok, why didnt this include a fold-out poster map, or at th bare minimum have the map laid out over 2 pages? for Christ's sake, I am going to have to go see my opthamologist so I can make out where things are with likely a stronger pair odf glasses The Background section, with the exception of the Far Traveler, is sorely lacking. It's great we have a few more backgrounds,but when it gets to the Suggested Characteristics, in all cases except the Far Traveler, you are just going back to use something different in the Players Handbook. To WotC I ask: Was it too god-damned hard to come up with more than 6 more personality traits, 6 Ideals, 6 bonds and 6 flaws for 11 new backgrounds? It must of been, because that's all you added! Oh, yeah lets look at what you did: You just suggest using the tables in the Players Handbook. Lets look at the Courtier from SCAG: It recommends the Guild Artisan Backgrouind...yeah, because pounding out a set of platemail gauntlets clearly is about th same as the high court politics and intrigue (DERP ALERT). Lets look a the Bonds: 1. "The workshop where I learned my trade...." Ok, MAYBE the Court could be your "workshop", but that is a stretch 2. "I created a great work for someone.." NOPE, maybe I paid or blackmailed someone to do that.... 3. "I owe my guild a great debt...." Great, EXCEPT COURTIERS ARENT IN A GUILD UNLESS THEY HAVE SOMEHOW UNIONIZED 4. "I pursue wealth..." this one is actually ok 5. "One day I will return to my guild and prove I am the greatest artisan of all" SEE #3 ABOVE. ALSO: Why not take the time to just re-write these so they actually fit. "one day i will return to my homeland and prove I am the greatest King/Queen/Leader of all"....absolutely lazy. 6. " I will get revenge on the evil..." maybe a bit workable with again tweaks. I get that the idea is for me to do the work, BUT SERIOUSLY, if I am paying $40, or even $25 on Amazon for a 160 page book, I want YOU TO DO THE WORK BEFORE HAND WotC. Also,new Cantrips: YOU ONLY GAVE US 4! WTF!?!?!?!??! Let me compare: when you were doing 3rd Edition, players could use all the spells in the Player's Handbook (which is a lot) and yet you still managed to add ANOTHER ENTIRE BOOK OF MAGIC SPELLS. Yet somehow now, despite owning all the IP, you can only manage to come up with 4 cantrips? You might as well have just physically taken a dump in each book before shipping because that at least would of showed more effort on a larger scale. This is almost the same piece-of-feces quality as Complete Psionics That is more of what I would consider a "Brutal" review ~Desh [/QUOTE]
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