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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HeapThaumaturgist" data-source="post: 2765123" data-attributes="member: 12332">Yea.  It's effective only if you have an adversarial GM, then they might be the difference between life and getting ground down to 1st level.Which means, basically, if I need those two feats, I'll just go ahead and quit the game.  I'm not really into that sort of game.Y'know the situation:  bad-guys tend to have ogres with Improved Sunder around.  A dunk in a river means you lose 10,000gp in spell books unless you have role-played out getting them waterproofed.  Rangers double-tap your familiar.  Every time you RP in an inn, you'll be attacked by assassins that night the moment you take off your armor.  A fallen PC gets CDGed by rote.  Your friends are expected to loot your corpse and your new PC comes in a level below the LAST poor sucker that died, who came in a level lower than the LAST sucker, etc etc, until you're bringing in a 2nd level PC after your 7th level guy bites it.  Eeep!--fje</blockquote>