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<blockquote data-quote="Aegeri" data-source="post: 5309412" data-attributes="member: 78116"><p>Just buy a $10 or whatever it is subscription to DDI and then you have absolutely everything that has been released easily. I think the greatest irony here is that essentials doesn't genuinely replace the old books and really is a bunch of new options if you're just playing 4E. Personally though, what I've seen doesn't look to bad as a starting point and a much lower investment. Honestly if you like essentials you'll like the rest of 4E from what I can tell.</p><p></p><p>Essentials does do a few things differently, but it doesn't try to do everything again and make all previous books irrelevant. I hate to say this, but from what I'm hearing in this thread and elsewhere, Essentials doesn't replace the core books OR function as a 4.5. It adds entirely to the game and much of the old material is still 100% valid, useful and if you actually want to use it, <em>necessary</em>. The ironic thing about all of this is that many are going to complain they need more than essentials to have all the options (like rituals it seems). This does give me quite a chuckle.</p><p></p><p>I do agree updated core books would be fantastic though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aegeri, post: 5309412, member: 78116"] Just buy a $10 or whatever it is subscription to DDI and then you have absolutely everything that has been released easily. I think the greatest irony here is that essentials doesn't genuinely replace the old books and really is a bunch of new options if you're just playing 4E. Personally though, what I've seen doesn't look to bad as a starting point and a much lower investment. Honestly if you like essentials you'll like the rest of 4E from what I can tell. Essentials does do a few things differently, but it doesn't try to do everything again and make all previous books irrelevant. I hate to say this, but from what I'm hearing in this thread and elsewhere, Essentials doesn't replace the core books OR function as a 4.5. It adds entirely to the game and much of the old material is still 100% valid, useful and if you actually want to use it, [I]necessary[/I]. The ironic thing about all of this is that many are going to complain they need more than essentials to have all the options (like rituals it seems). This does give me quite a chuckle. I do agree updated core books would be fantastic though. [/QUOTE]
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