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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5248260" data-attributes="member: 82106">You're selling Implement Mastery QUITE short. Of course anyone who has a bad enough build that they are a Staff Wizard with a 12 WIS is going to be gimped, that isn't a problem with the class feature, its a bad build. With a 16 WIS it's an awesome thing to have. With a 16 (or even 18) DEX Wand of Accuracy is one of the best class features in the game, its hands down superior to Action Surge, which is widely considered to be one of the best feats around. Orb of Imposition is actually the weakest of the PHB options. All of the AP options are quite good, though many people don't think a lot of Tome of Readiness. Still, its a valuable class feature and is absolutely on a par with any feat short of Expertise.Let me give the alternate view. All these class features are acquired between levels 1 and 10, after which you get a PP and then an ED, which provide any additional ones. Its speculation either way, but really adding another 12 class features to classes that are supposed to be SIMPLER seems fairly contrary to me.Huh? I can name plenty of class features on various classes that aren't even close to being as good as an encounter +3. That's basically as good as Elvish Accuracy, one of the best racial powers in the game and almost surely the best racial in PHB1.Really? Being able to brew potions, make magic items, transfer enchantments, strategic teleport, RAISE DEAD (excuse me, worthless!!!???), and even minor ones like TFD and Knock are all worthless? Sorry, I think that's just nonsense. They didn't say "nothing will change about any old classes" or at least I don't think its meant in anything like the way you are taking it. I think it means that nothing is going to change in the core rules which would suddenly make your class work differently. They constantly errata classes all the time and they've said they will errata PHB etc to conform to the Essentials changes (phrased differently but that's what it amounts to). So I see nothing that indicates they wouldn't errata Spellbook so its consistent across the entire class. Remember, a Mage IS a Wizard, and all wizards get Spellbook, so it would be pretty odd for a single class to have two different versions of the same class power that only differ in such a minor fashion. Heck, I'll even put up a wager on this one.There are a 100 ways these class features could be balanced. For instance they could be keyed to spells of specific schools as you say. In that case the BOOSTED version of the spell could be basically on par with existing spells. Thus the feature could be power-neutral and yet accomplish the "you get special sauce when you use Evocations" mission. That's only one way that could be sliced and diced. They don't have to be "worthless bonuses" in order to not make the Mage stronger than the Wizard.Obviously we're going to see when we see it, but I have a sneaking suspicion the designers are cleverer and smarter than you give them credit for.</blockquote>

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