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Message: <blockquote data-quote="OneWinged4ngel" data-source="post: 4457028" data-attributes="member: 37292">What about them?  They're free to use whatever rules they want.  If you have a more specific question (like, "how would you adapt this system to a randomized stat generation system?") that'd a bit more answerable.  Yes.  You get HD from class levels like everyone else.  So instead of being a 10 HD critter with 1 class level, you're an 11 HD character with 11 class levels.......You *do* realize that LA does not provide you with HD, and that you count the HD in addition to LA, right?  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/ponder.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hmm:" title="Hmmm    :hmm:" data-shortname=":hmm:" />Check your rulebook.  If you have a 10HD character with +5 LA, you in fact have a 15th level character who counts as a level 10 character and probably was actually of a CR of 8 or so.  Actually, such characters would be better off if the spells *did* act off ECL rather than HD, because a creature with LA will have less HD than everyone else in the party and thus get hit harder by all spell effects (and occasionally get wiped out by a "mookclearing" spell because it turned out they were a CR 8 monster being played at level 18).  Which is absolutely crazy, because they're a suitable challenge for a level 8 character.  According to the CR system, you are supposed to be able to take on two of yourself for every two levels you gain.  A level 10 character takes on two level 8s.  A level 12 character takes on 2 level 4s.  And a level 18 character treats a level 8 character as negligible and gets no XP whatsoever for bothering you.  It's a perfect example of how the LA system is hopelessly broken.That is in fact part of how my system does it.  It just goes a step further than you and gets rid of the LA for that +16 strength as well.</blockquote>

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