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Message: <blockquote data-quote="OneWinged4ngel" data-source="post: 4470685" data-attributes="member: 37292">So your game design philosophy is "players should be massively unbalanced, people should be heavily penalized for trying to capture the essence of a concept that is outside of the game-defined "norms."  Except that you gained a single 1d4+1 damage attack.  As your level *fourteen* ability.  And are thus being massively penalized compared to everyone else in the party who got a real ability, just because the essence of their concept doesn't match up with what you, the game designer decided should be halfway level-appropriate or not.  Calling a CL1 magic missile balanced with CL15 disintegrate doesn't make it true.  It doesn't even make it halfway sane.  Gee, 1d4+1 on one target at caster level 1, totally not underpowered for a 14th level ability.  Not unbalanced at all!  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/ponder.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hmm:" title="Hmmm    :hmm:" data-shortname=":hmm:" />This perspective can only be described as delusional.  Look at any ability normally gained at that level, even by the classes described as most underpowered.  Nothing sucks that much.  Nothing.  At all.  And next you'll say that BAB shouldn't scale with non-melee classes.  Or maybe you just think they should suck.  You already said you thought a 1d4+1 attack was a perfectly balance 14th level ability.  That's what "feat-like qualification for spells" is.   So the next part of your game design philosophy is that you should heavily restrict character customization and restrict them to preset trees, their spell choice progressions determined by you.  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/ponder.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hmm:" title="Hmmm    :hmm:" data-shortname=":hmm:" />  Or you could just make it scale to Deep Slumber and actually let the player learn a new and different ability someday.  Seriously, what you're really doing here is making the Sorcerer use all his spells known to scale up their spells known while Clerics, Druids, and Wizards get a far larger advantage than they already do, not to mention significantly restricting the game's versatility in build.  And if you deviate you would be terribly unbalanced, but not by your definition, because to you, by your words, Contingency and Antimagic Field aren't any better than a CL 1 Magic Missile.Yeah, you have fun with your houserules, where "everything is balanced, no matter what the actual numbers are" and "people have to take everything in predefined trees."  I wouldn't play in your game, just like I wouldn't play in one where the DM made people select from a handful of pregenerated characters and some were level 5 and some were level 15.</blockquote>

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