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<blockquote data-quote="athos" data-source="post: 5302528" data-attributes="member: 32605"><p>** Climbs up onto soapbox **</p><p> </p><p>Now that WotC has dumbed the game down, it is only a matter of time before D&D is a video game. The sad thing is, it won't even be as good as WoW.</p><p> </p><p>What makes RPGs more fun for me, over video games, is the creativity and customization the DM puts into the game. When my character does something that actually makes an impact on the world around him, that is just the best feeling ever. You are truly part of the game then.</p><p> </p><p>The other thing I like is when a real life friend's character is in need, you help them, just like you would help your friend. In a video game, when you play with strangers, you see people do all kinds of rude things that they wouldn't have the guts to do in real life. The loss of manners and the lack of friends, makes video games a lot less fun than table top for me.</p><p> </p><p>Eventually, there will be enough writers, software developers and producers working on a game where your "toon" actually can make changes to the world around it. This feeling of power and influence which makes RPGs so fun, is going to be addictive to people. To me, that will be scary, because when a game gets to that level, how are people not going to get sucked into it. I mean, people play WoW for 40+ hours a week now. And that is just following a script or going and killing something.</p><p> </p><p>I know that games and computers will eventually replace most table top RPGs, but some mean old bastards like myself, will still be rolling the dice 20 years from now, cursing those 1's and laughing hysterically when we crit. Will still probably be playing 3.5 or 2nd edition D&D, and laughing at the people spending all their money on 6.5. We will drink our beer or wine, talk to our friends face-to-face, and be regarded as luddites.</p><p> </p><p>Oh well, such is progress...</p><p> </p><p>** climbs down off soapbox looking sad **</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: red">Piratecat here. I'm an admin, although you might know that since you've been around since '05. Let's see what problems we have here.</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: red"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: red">- Trying to start an edition war argument? Check.</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: red">- "Dumbed down" insulting comment? Check.</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: red">- Video game comparison? Check. </span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: red">- Derogatory reference to WoW? Check.</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: red">- Insinuation that people who aren't playing your edition aren't playing D&D, and can't make friends? Check.</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: red"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: red">And you know, these sort of stick in our craw.</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: red"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: red">I don't care what edition you're playing so long as you're having fun. I personally play 3.5, 4e, and about a half dozen other systems on a regular basis. But to have the temerity to declare that other people couldn't possibly be having fun, and that their style of the game is wrong, is nothing but sheer obnoxious hubris. Cut it out. Play the edition or the game you love, come here and talk about all the cool things you're doing, and when possible steal good stuff from other peoples' threads. Other folks will be doing that to you, too. But don't come here and doom-cry, wailing and lamenting in an attempt to start an argument. We don't want to hear it.</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: red"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: red">If this is in the least bit unclear, feel free to PM me. </span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: red"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: red">~ PCat</span></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="athos, post: 5302528, member: 32605"] ** Climbs up onto soapbox ** Now that WotC has dumbed the game down, it is only a matter of time before D&D is a video game. The sad thing is, it won't even be as good as WoW. What makes RPGs more fun for me, over video games, is the creativity and customization the DM puts into the game. When my character does something that actually makes an impact on the world around him, that is just the best feeling ever. You are truly part of the game then. The other thing I like is when a real life friend's character is in need, you help them, just like you would help your friend. In a video game, when you play with strangers, you see people do all kinds of rude things that they wouldn't have the guts to do in real life. The loss of manners and the lack of friends, makes video games a lot less fun than table top for me. Eventually, there will be enough writers, software developers and producers working on a game where your "toon" actually can make changes to the world around it. This feeling of power and influence which makes RPGs so fun, is going to be addictive to people. To me, that will be scary, because when a game gets to that level, how are people not going to get sucked into it. I mean, people play WoW for 40+ hours a week now. And that is just following a script or going and killing something. I know that games and computers will eventually replace most table top RPGs, but some mean old bastards like myself, will still be rolling the dice 20 years from now, cursing those 1's and laughing hysterically when we crit. Will still probably be playing 3.5 or 2nd edition D&D, and laughing at the people spending all their money on 6.5. We will drink our beer or wine, talk to our friends face-to-face, and be regarded as luddites. Oh well, such is progress... ** climbs down off soapbox looking sad ** [b][color=red]Piratecat here. I'm an admin, although you might know that since you've been around since '05. Let's see what problems we have here. - Trying to start an edition war argument? Check. - "Dumbed down" insulting comment? Check. - Video game comparison? Check. - Derogatory reference to WoW? Check. - Insinuation that people who aren't playing your edition aren't playing D&D, and can't make friends? Check. And you know, these sort of stick in our craw. I don't care what edition you're playing so long as you're having fun. I personally play 3.5, 4e, and about a half dozen other systems on a regular basis. But to have the temerity to declare that other people couldn't possibly be having fun, and that their style of the game is wrong, is nothing but sheer obnoxious hubris. Cut it out. Play the edition or the game you love, come here and talk about all the cool things you're doing, and when possible steal good stuff from other peoples' threads. Other folks will be doing that to you, too. But don't come here and doom-cry, wailing and lamenting in an attempt to start an argument. We don't want to hear it. If this is in the least bit unclear, feel free to PM me. ~ PCat[/color][/b][color=red][/color] [/QUOTE]
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