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<blockquote data-quote="CovertOps" data-source="post: 5360335" data-attributes="member: 65152"><p>This. I've been running 4e about since it came out and my party is just hitting Epic. As I said previously, for the cost of a feat the Rogue can be full power against ranged opponents with a great bow. The Ranger is either built ranged or melee, but is awesome at whichever build (even the Str ranger can get a Javelin and use it with his powers!). The Fighter, Warlord, and Str Cleric all have the option to pick up a Javelin (10/20) and use it with their primary stat. For a feat they can make it 12/22. Except for the Rogue (get a Frost Bow with Wintertouched and Lasting Frost and this problem is solved as well) none of those options loses any substantial amount of damage. Iron Armbands and Weapon Focus* for a grand total of +3/+6/+9 H/P/E is not a devastating loss.</p><p></p><p>And none of this takes into account the plain fact that <strong>most</strong> monsters don't have attacks with a range greater than 10. You don't know the number of times I've lamented the bow Ranger in my party that I just couldn't hit because of his base 20 range and the monsters limit of range 10 powers.</p><p></p><p>*Even the weapon focus loss can be fixed for the cost of a feat making this loss +2/+4/+6. And is this amount of damage <strong>really</strong> what you're complaining about ([MENTION=64564]Shin[/MENTION])???</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CovertOps, post: 5360335, member: 65152"] This. I've been running 4e about since it came out and my party is just hitting Epic. As I said previously, for the cost of a feat the Rogue can be full power against ranged opponents with a great bow. The Ranger is either built ranged or melee, but is awesome at whichever build (even the Str ranger can get a Javelin and use it with his powers!). The Fighter, Warlord, and Str Cleric all have the option to pick up a Javelin (10/20) and use it with their primary stat. For a feat they can make it 12/22. Except for the Rogue (get a Frost Bow with Wintertouched and Lasting Frost and this problem is solved as well) none of those options loses any substantial amount of damage. Iron Armbands and Weapon Focus* for a grand total of +3/+6/+9 H/P/E is not a devastating loss. And none of this takes into account the plain fact that [b]most[/b] monsters don't have attacks with a range greater than 10. You don't know the number of times I've lamented the bow Ranger in my party that I just couldn't hit because of his base 20 range and the monsters limit of range 10 powers. *Even the weapon focus loss can be fixed for the cost of a feat making this loss +2/+4/+6. And is this amount of damage [b]really[/b] what you're complaining about ([MENTION=64564]Shin[/MENTION])??? [/QUOTE]
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